Bruce,

I went to a Verizon store and a Sprint store yesterday and got the
lowdown on prices.  Both offer the phone for $400 if you buy a voice +
data plan.  Activation is around $35 for each carrier.  However, for a
plan that gives you 450 minutes, Verizon charges $40/month, and then
unlimited data is an ADDITIONAL $40/month.  With Sprint, the 400 minute
plan is $40/month, but unlimited data is only an additional $15/month.
If you want to be able to use your phone as a modem for your laptop, it
will be an additional $25 with Sprint, $15 for Verizon, but even so,
Verizon will still end up costing you at least an extra $25/month for
basically the same thing.  Family plans are slightly different, but
Verizon always costs you more.  Now if most of the people you call are
with Verizon, then it's probably going to cost you less if you make lots
of calls to go with them.  Oh, the other thing about Sprint is that
their off-peak hours start at 7pm instead of 9pm.

As far as Verizon's limitations, here's a link to their policies:
<http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=planFirst&acti
on=viewPlanDetail&catId=409>

Scroll down to the bottom - I'll quote: "Unlimited
NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services cannot be used (1) for
uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (2) with
server devices or with host computer applications, including, but not
limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, Voice
over IP (VoIP), automated machine-to-machine connections, or
peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing, or (3) as a substitute or backup for
private lines or dedicated data connections."

And apparently this isn't just some legalese that isn't really enforced.
People have actually gotten letters that tell them they are in violation
of this policy due to high data activity:

<http://www.evdoforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1004&postdays=0&postorder=asc
&start=0 >

Sprint, on the other hand, seems to be PROMOTING such usage:
<http://www.sprint.com/business/products/products/wirelessHighSpeedData_
tabB.html?origref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.evdoforums.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D
1235>

"Permits More Business Applications-With Sprint you can:

    * Stream a meeting to a national employee audience
    * Download multimedia content (i.e., sales presentations or training
video), music or games."


Verizon has the advantage of better customer service and better voice
coverage, and at least here in the DC area they have an exclusive lock,
damn them, on reception underground on the metro system, which I think
is really dumb, but they must have paid metro some huge fee for the
exclusivity.  Again, if you make lots of calls and most of your friends
and family are with Verizon, they become a better choice, but that's not
the case for me...

P.S. - these urls I've posted are long and so I'm not sure if they will
come out ok, you might have to cut and paste them if they wrap onto
separate lines...


Levi Wallach
<http://twelveblackcodemonkeys.com> - Blog
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Bruce Darby
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Treo] Re: Unlocking Cingular Treo 650
>
> I too am planning on buying a 700P from Verizon. I would
> consider moving to Sprint, but a lot of my friends are
> already on Verizon.
> 
> Where is it written that Verizon will not allow streaming
> media? If I purchase an unlimited plan from them, I wouldn't
> think they can dictate how I use the service.
>
> Bruce


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