Steve J,
This is what I was hoping to hear, but alas, I had already tried one level
of reduction in video quality in TCPMP and found the artifacting that it
introduced to be rather disturbing (the scene would slowly decay, almost
like melting, and then snap into sharp relief when changing to a new scene).

Regarding the "can't have my cake and eat it too" comment, why not?  Isn't
the consumer electronics industry simply a never-ending race towards
eliminating trade-offs?  Who would have thought just 5 years ago that I'd
even be ABLE to have a complaint involving a 4GB SD card, a 480p-quality
Xvid file, and an inability to overclockt beyond 320MHz a high-res
combination phone+PDA that fits in your pocke?  I bet the Zodiac would have
played these files without a hitch.  I bet a lot of bygone VGA-screened
Pocket PCs with 600+ MHz procs would also.  So why shouldn't I expect my
700p, which is a couple years newer than those devices, to be able to as
well?

VGA-res, 29.97fps Xvid files are what I convert everything to.  It's my
benchmark for acceptable video quality.  If I have to reconvert a ton of
crap just so my Treo can handle it, then the Treo isn't an acceptable tool
for the job.  And that would make me sad since the little guy is so capable
and performs admirably at nearly every other task I toss at him.  So call me
an optimist...but a demanding one. ;-)
- Craig




On 4/22/07, Steve J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is a simple matter to correct this without changing your files.  This
> happened to me, and here is what I did:
>
> Go into TCPMP and select Pref.
> Go to the video tab
> Drop down the Quality drop-down menu (arrow on the right).  This menu is
> to the
> right of the Dither Colors check box.
> Select low quality (or lowest quality if that is acceptable)
> Close the Preferences screen
>
> Your videos should play normally with the files you have and the picture
> will
> still be decent.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nico
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 3:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Treo] Re: TCPMP frame dropping on 700p
>
> Look, you can not have your cake ánd eat it.
>
> One way or the other you need to do something with those files.
> Either you resize them, or you lower the framerate or whatever but
> something
> needs to be done.
>
> Overclocking alone is not going to do it (as a side note, it burns down
> battery a lot faster too and might result in other instabilities).
>
> Besides, why would you need to process ALL your video files at once ? You
> only need to handle those you are going to transfer to your Treo. You can
> only store 4Gb worth of video on your SD card so ... and compressing those
> vids will even result in you being able to store MORE videos on that same
> card.
>
> Greetz,
> Nico.
>
> On 4/22/07, Craig Froehle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > So, in essence, you're suggesting that I duplicate hundreds of video
> > files, thereby wasting dozens of gigabytes of disk space, just to
> > compensate for the fact that the Treo needs about 20% more oomf in the
> > CPU area.  Thanks, but no thanks.
> >
> > Any other ideas that don't require altering the original video files?
> >
> > BTW, in case anyone was going to suggest Kinoma, I just purchased the
> > upgrade Kinoma player ($14.95) to see if it had better performance
> > than TCPMP.  I couldn't have been more wrong.  Not only does Kinoma
> > Player 4 EX output about half the framerate (at best) that TCPMP does,
> > it won't even handle Xvid files.  That's the last time I let myself
> > get suckered into buying commercialware without a demo first.
> >
> >
> > On 4/22/07, bbernstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > well the one other thing you could try, since you dont want to do
> > > what you really should, is to jump into the future and get a faster
> > > chip for the phone... but that would require a lot of energy for the
> > > time warp, and i think you could probably do it a lot easier by just
> > > resizing your vids...
> > >
> > > try vdub... its totally easy to use, free, and can do batch mode for
> > > converting tons of files at once using the same parameters if they
> > > are all 640x480... you just load one file up so you can set all the
> > > prefs (use the crop filter to resize it to 320x240), then put each
> > > one in the batch list, by loading the file and doing a save avi (with
> > > the setting "do not run this job now" so it puts it into the batch
> > > list), then just run the batch before ya go to bed, and when ya wake
> > > up in the morning they will all be done!!
> > >
> > > http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > > There is also a version called vdubmod that will load up .vob files
> > > (dvd's), but that is just to extract the video.. you still need to
> > > run it thru vdub after that to combine the vid and aud since vdubmod
> > > wont, but there are very few apps that will actually read .vob
> > > files...
> > >
> > > the only other thing you may not have is the Xvid codecs you would
> > > want...
> > >
> > > http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.15.0.html
> > >
> > > peace,
> > > bb
> > > --- In [email protected], "Craig Froehle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey, guys, I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on how to get
> > > > TCPMP on a 700p to drop fewer frames when playing back VGA
> > > > (640x480)-sized Xvid videos.  Currently, I'm getting about 1/3rd to
> > > > 1/4th of all frames dropped, and that's pretty noticeable.
> > > >
> > > > I'm specifically hoping for a settings tweak in TCPMP (I'm running
> > > > 0.72RC1) or a stable overclocking* solution or a definitive way to
> > > > determine whether it's my SD card that's causing the problem (I'm
> > > > using a 150X 4GB Transcend that seems to give blazing read speeds,
> > > so
> > > > I don't think it's that).
> > > >
> > > > What I'm NOT looking for are suggestions to (a) reduce the video
> > > > resolution (I want to play these specific files), (b) buy a
> > > different
> > > > media player app, unless it's just the best thing evar), or (c) tell
> > > > me to use a different video format (see (a) above).
> > > >
> > > > *I've tried the freeware version of PXA Clocker, but TCPMP either
> > > > shows no improvement (at some settings) or crashes immediately upon
> > > > launch (other settings).  So no dice there.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > - Craig
> >
> >
> >
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