Hi Craig,

Not knowing your background, here is a big fat dump of knowledge.

A cutting blade should have either a voltage or a wattage rating with it. If it's a voltage rating, your job is easy; you just need a power supply capable of delivering $beaucoup amps at that voltage.

If it's a wattage rating, you'll need to do some measurements and math to figure out the correct voltage for your power supply. Here are the equations you'll mainly be using:

E = IR (Ohm's law, potential (Volts) equals current (Amps) times resistance (Ohms))
P = EI (Power (Watts) equals potential times current)

Say your blade is rated 100 Watts. Then you know that E * I must equal 100. So, you could build a power supply capable of delivering 1 Amp at 100 Volts, or 100 Amps at 1 Volt, and have the correct amount of power. But which one is right? That's where the resistance of the blade comes into play.

Technically you need to know the at-temperature resistance, but the cold resistance will do and is a lot safer to measure!

Let's say your blade measures 1.5 Ohms cold.  Back to the equations:

E = I * 1.5
and
100 = E * I

Now we do some algebra:

100 = (I * 1.5) * I
100 = 1.5 * I^2
I^2 = 100 / 1.5
I = sqrt(66.67)
I = 8.16 Amps

So we have a current; to get that current through a 1.5 Ohm resistor, we need E = (8.16) * (1.5) = 12.24 Volts.

Checking our math, we do P = EI = 8.16 Amps * 12.24 Volts = 99.9 Watts.

So for our example, you need a 12-volt power supply capable of delivering 8 Amps, which will run your knife just slightly cooler than its rating.

Some loose ends:

- The knife probably has a positive thermal coefficient (PTC), meaning its resistance increases as it gets hot. The calculations done using cold resistance mean that it will run slightly cooler than designed. To eke out every last watt, you'll need the hot resistance in the equations above.

- The simplest approach is an unregulated linear power supply, but that means a pretty heavy chunk of iron.

- Depending on the voltage requirements, a castoff computer power supply may be able to suit your needs.

- The power supply's ratings affect the device this way:

  Volts - how hot does it get
  Watts - how fast does it get hot (and how well does it stay hot)

- The safest way to determine hot resistance is to measure the current through, and voltage across, a running blade. Note that "safest" here means "marginally less likely to lead to severe burns."

- You may find that the best convergence of ease vs cost is to buy a cutter off the shelf and build a jig to hold the blade how you need it held.

- The wires connecting power supply to blade need to be thick and short as possible. Since the blade's resistance is (probably) quite small, the resistance of the wires start to become a significant factor. Wire resistance is proportional to length and inversely proportional to cross-sectional area (i.e. shorter and thicker means less resistance).

- AC/DC is nearly* irrelevant for this application. Use whatever is handy.

- If you use AC, note that the voltage figures in the equations should be interpreted as RMS (root-mean-square) voltage; multiply RMS by sqrt(2) (approximately 1.4) to get peak-to-peak voltage, and make sure you know which one is which when you're measuring and reading labels.

Hope at least some of this was helpful!

-Brian


On 05/08/2018 07:57 PM, Craig Cook via TriEmbed wrote:
Lets say I want to make a custom one of these:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CP70IDU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2IGZ09LPUKLVH&psc=1

The blade gets up to 1200 F in a few seconds.

What do I need to investigate to heat a blade safely like that? (I can
buy that blade for ~$23, or open to other blade ideas)

I know I could buy one of these machines, I am interested in changing
the form factor though.  Maybe add a motion sensor, when no motion, shut
the system off.

I can borrow one to get measurements if that helps.

Thanks

Craig


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