Sorry to come late to the party, one thought I had was a mesh system using 
multiple AP's and or the robots themselves for repeating the signal.  Just a 
thought.

BTW, Love that part of PA, grew up near there and used to go to West Point Park 
(now gone and part of a housing development)

Bill

On 10/26/2018 2:26 PM, Charles West via TriEmbed wrote:
Thank you guys so much.  This is a number of viable ways to solve the problem 
and I think I can be much more confident in how I am going to approach this.

Thanks again,
Charlie

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Rodney Radford <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    A distance of 1km is not that far and can be easily achieved with off the 
shelf WiFi systems. I am currently working on a project that has an Ubiquiti 
M2HP radio attached as the base system
    mounted at the top of a building with an omnidirectional antenna, and the 
same radio with a smaller omnidirectional antenna mounted on the mobile unit 
and we can easily get that distance.

    The previous solutions are good, but to me, WiFi that just works out of the 
box is a simple solution.

    As for my balloon communications, I had a 2-meter radio in the ham band, 
broadcasting at about 2W and was able to get 100+ miles, but that small antenna 
was up in the air over 15-20 miles high.
    I also tried using WiFi with a parabolic dish on the ground and I was able 
to test that out to over 2 miles on the ground, but that is a directional 
antenna - not very good for  your setup.


    On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:23 PM Charles West via TriEmbed <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hello!

        I'm in Lansdale, PA now but I was hoping I might be able to pick you 
guy's brains.  My current big project is trying to build one or more robots to 
deliver food/drinks on golf courses.  I'm
        currently trying to figure out the best way to maintain continuous(ish) 
contact between a access point/basestation at it's base of operations and 1 or 
more robots operating on the course.

        At a minimum, I would like to have the robot report its basic status 
(battery percent, GPS position) but it would also be great if it could stream 
video when required to allow teleprescence
        steering or determination of what is going on.  The robot would 
probably be about 1 km from the base station at max.

        I'm currently considering 3 possible solutions but I'm pretty open to 
ideas:

        1.  Use a mobile hotspot/cell modem:
                For fixed $130 and monthly $20, I can get a mobile hotspot 
which provides one gig of data per month and more data for $5/gig.  If I keep 
the reporting really light, this could work
        but the communication would have to be kept pretty limited.

        2.  XBee:
                 These modules seem to float somewhere between $25 and $60 in 
prices, so a pair would be somewhere in the $50 to $120 range.  Sparkfun had a 
good guide to XBee
        (https://www.sparkfun.com/pages/xbee_guide 
<https://www.sparkfun.com/pages/xbee_guide>) but they are listing almost all of 
their products as retired (besides old series 1) and most of the
        stuff I read about XBee is from 2015-2016 so I am not sure what the 
best options are anymore.  In any case, it looks like it would provide a low 
baud rate connection over the desired range.
        The main problem is that it requires working through XBee and making my 
basestation have to have special software to forward information.  I'm also not 
sure about security and it is
        certainly not going to be streaming video.

        3.  Long range Wifi:
                Rodney's done some work in this area before with his weather 
balloon projects.  I don't recall off the top of my head how far he managed to 
get but I do remember he had to use higher
        power than allowed without a higher grade amateur radio license.  That 
power level would not work for a commercial operation.  There are some 
companies that are selling solutions aimed at
        farms (http://ayrstone.com/www/?v=7516fd43adaa 
<http://ayrstone.com/www/?v=7516fd43adaa>) and there seem to be off the shelf 
solutions that can get 500 ft (mostly aimed at hotels).  The
        hotel systems seem to be in the $350 range and the farm systems in the 
$500 or so.  The robot could use a high gain antenna, but it is not clear how 
much it helps.  These systems have
        security built in and potentially can stream video if the range is long 
enough.  Like hotspots, writing software for them would also be easy.

        What do you guys think?

        Thanks,
        Charlie
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