Regarding the Xinu OS ("Xinu Is Not Unix"), I was incredibly fortunate to have 
taken OS and Networking classes from Xinu's creator, Douglas Comer, at Purdue. 
Xinu was a fantastic learning platform for an intro to OS's. I think we built 
it from scratch on 486's (this was the late 1990's). Comer helped create a lot 
of the original internet, and he had fantastic stories to drive the lessons 
home.
I hadn't thought about Xinu in years - glad it's still alive and kicking!
-svec
    On Tuesday, July 28, 2026 at 06:15:37 PM EDT, Pete Soper via TriEmbed 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
   
I hadn't heard of Xenu, a simple OS created in the 80s for teaching. A better 
Minix? This link points to a Git repo with a "version .1" port to small MPUs 
like Atmega328 (the 8 bit chip in the R4 genuine Arduino board) as well as 
larger ones. I gather the Xenu culture by necessity isn't oriented toward fancy 
GUI IDEs? 
 
 Since Arduino was bought there hasn't seemed to be any big change to disrupt 
use of the 1.8 or 2.3 IDEs.  The design of 1.8 seems absolutely sweet with 
respect to extensibility, giving allowing platform support a lot of lattitude. 
I suspect the powers that be at Arduino are happy to let it sit at least until 
pressure to monetize kicks in.  In recent weeks I managed to get the 2.3 IDE to 
interact with a Raspberry Pi Pico 2 via SWD (JTAG over two wires), but I find 
this debug support on Linux very fragile. 
 
I've never paid the dues to learn cmake properly but marvel at how well it 
works to create make files. I can mindlessly copy files for cmake and make then 
work pretty well.
 
But I confess I'm very fond of a dev flow involving vi, job control (cntrl-Z, 
fg),  make and gdb or some other effective debugger in a shell session. On my 
current PCs the turnaround time from an edit after the debug "aha" to a new 
debug session is small single digit seconds: very much faster than the time it 
takes to click around in a GUI.
 
Pete
 On 7/26/26 05:49, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
  
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 5:30 PM Pete Soper via TriEmbed
<[email protected]> wrote:
 
 Created by Slava S.

https://github.com/slvDev/esp32-ai

 
       Thanks for that! And it leads on to a question I've had: given
Arduino was borged, what would be a decent replacement for its IDE?
And, what would be the penalty of using vi and make instead just like
Xenu wanted us to do?

 
 Pete
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