On 8/16/26 15:29, jonathan hunsberger via TriEmbed wrote:
 I hung it up in the window and couldn't ping anything. Then i realized that the antenna was pointing horizontally so i made it vertical and got ping back!

This raises a detail folks should know about: polarization. Radio waves have polarization depending on a number of factors. The two most common flavors of polarization are horizontal and vertical. (Applications involving space craft use other polarization types). The little rod thing that comes with the Heltec board is expected to be kept vertical and this gives vertical polarization (and it makes no difference if it is pointing straight up or straight down). If two stations have mismatched polarization the effect is attenuation of signals: typically 3-10 decibels*1 and this explains what you observed. If I monitor my phone's wifi link to a house router I can cause the signal level to jump up and down by changing the phone orientation.

Common antenna elements are 1/4, 1/2 and sometimes 5/8 wavelengths long. Many antennas are built with arrays of these common size elements. The little Heltec rod  and its coax connecting to the board are around 3.3 inches (by eyeball measure) and so it's a 1/4wl monopole antenna. Wavelength is related to frequency by wl in meters = 300/fmhz, so at the Heltec's 905MHz operating center frequency one wavelength would be  300/905 meters or 13.28 inches and 1/4wl is 3.3.

Virtually all commercial communication equipment for stations on the ground talking to other stations on the ground at 900mhz uses vertical polarization. But if you have control of  both stations there is nothing to keep you from using horizontal polarization and horizontal gives you some immunity from noise that is vertically polarized: the 3-10 decibels attenuation is working for you in this case.

At the frequencies of interest here there is no advantage per se to horizontal polarization: in typical use horizontal polarization is meant to leverage the extra signal strength that comes from reflections off the ground or water "in front of" the antenna but this effect only generally comes into play for signals skipping off upper atmosphere layers but 900mhz signals cannot propagate that way. So to match other folks' expected equipment for 900mhz work you should orient single rod-shaped antennas vertically and yagi antennas*2 with their elements also vertical. High gain rod-shaped antennas are typically collinear arrays of vertical dipoles. This is why they can be quite long.

Pete

*1 Decibels are tenths of a logarithmic unit. That is, one decibel is 10 to the 1/10 power, five decibels is 10 to the 5/10 power, etc. The max power out of the Heltec board is 28 dbm. This is "28 decibels above a reference power of one milliwatt " (the m). So that is one milliwatt times 10 to the 2.8 power or 447 milliwatts. See this for more on the deciblel:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel> . It should be mentioned that the silly-small chip on the Heltec board that is an amplifier capable of 28dbm does not transmit continuously for any length of time: because it takes a full watt of supply power to output this signal and it has no heat sink it would unsolder itself from the board immediately if it was somehow stuck on. The "spread spectrum" scheme for transmitting across a range of frequencies is beyond scope (i.e. I have forgotten all I knew about this and am too lazy to look it up).

*2 Yagi was a Japanese guy who invented the antennas we see with a central "boom" across which is a row of perpendicular elements of varying lengths. This type offers gain that is directional. A nine element 900MHz yagi offers about 12dbi*3 of gain but only within a "beam" about 35 degrees wide (where the horizontal "edges" of the beam have 3dbi less gain than at the center and the gain off to the side and to the rear of the antenna can be 30-40db less than at the center. So these are useful for communication in definite directions and stink if forced to operate with stations in arbitrary directions unless a "rotator" can steer the antenna as needed. But there are high gain omnidirectional, vertically polarized antennas specifically for use with equipment like the Heltec board. These are also directional, but gain upwards and downwards is robbed for the sake of higher gain outward horizontally.

*3 The term dbi is short for "decibels relative to a "isotropic antenna" reference antenna. Think of this reference antenna as representing zero gain (in all directions). A positive number with dbi means the received and transmitted signal are greater than what a reference antenna would deliver and a negative number means worse. The little "chip antenna" on an ESP32 board is an example of a negative gain number, while the little PCB-squiggle 1/4 wavelength antenna on some ESP32 boards might offer a small positive gain number.



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