Hi Julien,

The updated version has just been uploaded.

Thanks,
Mingui

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julien Meuric [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 3:51 PM
> To: Mingui Zhang
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected];
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-trill-mtu-negotiation-02
> 
> Hi Mingui,
> 
> About the "updated RFCs" issue below, my point is: "please make sure the text
> and the hearder are complete". I just had a quick look at those references, 
> you
> know better than me which are actually relevant.
> 
> I am looking forward to the updated version.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julien
> 
> 
> Apr. 29, 2016 - [email protected]:
> > Hi Julien,
> >
> > Thanks for the comments! Much appreciated!
> >
> > Please see in-lines below. An updated version will soon be uploaded to 
> > resolve
> the comments.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mingui
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Julien Meuric [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 4:34 AM
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.
> >> The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or
> >> routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG
> >> review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to
> provide assistance to the Routing ADs.
> >> For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see
> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir
> >>
> >> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs,
> >> it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other
> >> IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them
> >> through discussion or by updating the draft.
> >>
> >> Document: draft-ietf-trill-mtu-negotiation-02.txt
> >> Reviewer: Julien Meuric
> >> Review Date: April 27, 2016
> >> IETF LC End Date: April 5, 2016
> >>
> >> Intended Status: Standards Track
> >>
> >>
> >> *Summary:*
> >> I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be
> >> resolved before publication.
> >>
> >> *Comments:*
> >> Even though it requires to browse some other TRILL (normative)
> >> documents, the mechanism itself is simple and well described.
> >> Nevertheless, the specification deserves some improvement when it
> >> comes to obligations and options: this was part of my expectation
> >> after I realized it was upgrading a short section of the base
> >> document (RFC 6325), which needs to be emphasized as well.
> >
> > In the abstract, it's already mentioned as "optional updates" to RFC 6325. 
> > I think
> "Updates: 6325 " needs to appear in the page header as well.
> >
> >>
> >> *Minor Issues:*
> >> - The document is ST and references RFC 2119. There a some "MUST" and
> >> one "SHOULD", many of them inherited from specifications out of the
> >> referenced documents. On the other side, "must" and "should" are
> >> commonly used. This MUST be brought up to ST expectations.
> >
> > The usage of "must" and "should" will be updated as needed. I have checked 
> > all
> those appearances. The changes would be editorial.
> >
> >> - The document claims to only update RFC 7177. It seems however that
> >> it also updates RFC 6325 (section 4.3.2), RFC 7176 and maybe even RFC 7780.
> >
> > Actually, I don't think this document updates RFC7176. It simply makes use 
> > of
> the MTU Sub-TLV defined in RFC 7176.
> > The specification about the originatingL1LSPBufferSize of an unreachable
> RBridge is a slight update to RFC7780. This will be emphasized.
> >
> >> That should be either acknowledged or clarified. The 4th paragraph of
> >> the introduction tries to tackle that topic, but it is not clear
> >> enough in defining the position of the document with respect to previously
> defined mechanisms.
> >
> > The updated to RFC 6325 will be emphasized in this paragraph. The backward
> compatibility will be moved to here as well. It will help the positioning.
> >
> >> - The 3rd paragraph of the introduction duplicates the beginning of
> >> the following section 2. A possible way to limit this repetition
> >> effect may be to summarize that part of the introduction.
> >
> > Yes, summarization is the proper way.
> >
> >> - Section 3 specifies an algorithm. Even if it does not rely on a
> >> formal language, consistency would be valuable. My mind compiler would
> suggest:
> >>       * "If" is followed by "then" only once: "then" keyword to be dropped?
> >>       * The algorithm relies on a break/stop or continue principle;
> >> as such, the instance of "Else" at the end should be replaced by
> >> "<line
> >> break> 4) Repeat Step1";
> >>       * "is set to" and "<--" seem to be similar: please pick one or 
> >> clarify;
> >>       * to improve readability, I would drop the double naming
> >> introduced with X,
> >> X1 and X2 and rely on explicit variable names all along, as in the
> >> text: e.g., "linkMtuSize" instead of X, "lowerBound" for X1 and 
> >> "upperBound"
> instead of X2.
> >
> > Sure. Explicit names will be used for the sake of readability.
> >
> >>
> >> *Nits:*
> >
> > The following nits will be fixed as suggested.
> >
> >> ------
> >> "Updates" field in header
> >> ---
> >> - I think the "RFC" acronym should appear.
> >> - The list may be extended with RFC RFC 6325, RFC 7176 and maybe even
> >> RFC 7780.
> >> ------
> >> Abstract
> >> ---
> >> - s/campus wide MTU feature/campus-wide MTU feature/
> >> - s/campus wide capability/campus-wide capability/
> >> - s/link local packets/link-local packets/
> >> - s/link local MTUs/link-local MTUs/
> >> - "It updates RFC..." duplicates header: either to drop or make more
> >> specific to point to precise sections/mechanisms.
> >> ------
> >> Section 1.
> >> ---
> >> - s/link scope PDUs can/link-scoped PDUs can/
> >> ------
> >> Section 2.
> >> ---
> >> - s/campus wide Sz MTU/campus-wide Sz MTU/
> >> - s/area wide scope/area-wide scope/
> >> - s/domain wide scope/domain wide scope/
> >> - s/L1 Circuit Scoped/L1 Circuit-Scoped/
> >> - "limited to 1470 to 65,535 bytes": I cannot parse it, is it meant to be 
> >> a range?
> >> ------
> >> Section 4.
> >> - OLD
> >> "while RB1 normally ignores link state information for any IS-IS
> >> unreachable RBridge RB2, originatingL1LSPBufferSize is an exception."
> >>     NEW
> >> "while in most cases RB1 ignores link state information for IS-IS
> >> unreachable RBridge RB2, originatingL1LSPBufferSize is meaningful."
> >> [current wording suggests it is adding an exception to a mandatory
> >> behavior, which AFAIU it does not]
> >
> > OK. Will update the words.
> >
> >> ------
> >> Section 7.
> >> ---
> >> - "tested size can be advertised": "can" is to be addressed as part
> >> of the loose RFC 2119 wording comment.
> >
> > Will use the word "MAY" instead.
> >
> >> ------
> >> Section 8.
> >> ---
> >> - "value [...] had been reported": "reported" puzzles me, maybe "tested"
> >> was meant?
> >> - The 3rd paragraph "For an Lz-ignorant [...] link-wide Lz." should
> >> be moved up to become the second paragraph, so as to clarify what an
> Lz-ignorant is.
> >
> > OK. It will be moved up.
> >
> >> - "The extension of TRILL MTU negociation...": this is an explicit
> >> positioning which should be mentioned earlier in the I-D.
> >
> >
> > OK. This will be moved to the introduction.
> >
> >> ------
> >> Section 10.
> >> ---
> >> - RFC 7180 bis is now RFC 7780.
> >
> > Yes, this will be updated.
> >
> >> ---
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Julien
> >
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