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I know nothing of Java programming, but I do know that I *must* keep a Windows machine here at work to use the Java based systems we run here at our office. Neither my Mac or Linux installs work 100% with this system, which (btw) is entirely Linux based aside from the Windows client requirement. Any web sites that I visit that implement any Java features may or may not work properly on my Linux box. Regardless, whether its Mac, Linux or Windows, Java apps also seem to be the slowest thing going on any hardware I've used. As I said before, IANAJP, but as a user, Java seems to suck pretty bad.

Just my $.02

- --mike

On Jun 17, 2004, at 10:12 AM, David A. Cafaro wrote:

Ok, quick question, but why do you say Java isn't well supported under
Linux? I'm just a little confused on that. I've been using Java to
write and run programs under Linux with no problems, and with what seems
like very good support. Between JVM/JDKs from Sun/IBM/BlackDown/Apache
Geronimo, development tools from Eclipse, SlickEdit, Apache.org and
assorted sqlDB drivers, WebServer Apps, and other items, Java seems to
be very well supported. Could you clarify that some, I'm worried I'm
missing something. Thanks.


-David

On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 09:46, Joseph Tate wrote:
Have fun with your pointers! I'll be shifting any new development work
to a language in which I don't have to worry about memory management.
C#, though I despised it at first, may fit the bill. VB .Net doesn't
seem like a real language to me. Java, though I prefer it, is not well
supported under Linux (unfortunately, but gjc 3.4 should change that).
Perl and PHP are great, but can't be compiled (without expensive third
party tools). Python is collapsing in on itself (according to some whom
I respect). I do know that I'm tired of tracking down memory leaks.


If there's a language that I should be learning, let me know.  I'm
taking a look at XUL right now to see if that is useful.  Am I giving
Python an unfair judgement?  Is there a memory management plugin for
C/C++ (though that would defeat the purpose)?

Joseph
C/C++, Java, Perl, PHP, VB, InstallScript, Bash, Batch, and PL/SQL developer
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David A. Cafaro
dac(at)cafaro.net
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