On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 02:30:35PM -0400, Tanner Lovelace wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:09:28 -0400, Mike M > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you say bullshit? :-) > > Yes, but in a much more classy way.
That's what I thought. It's one of your better arguments. > > > Given that TriLUG is incorporated as a 501(c)3 educational non-profit > > that may not have purposes or activities that are illegal or violate > > fundamental public policy, I would think that running a public > > discussion forum and suppressing OT posts might be unwise. > > > > http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123299,00.html > > > > The public does have a right to expect certain things from 501(c)(3) > > organizations because they are tax-exempt. > > Nothing on that website says we as a private organization, even a > 501c3 one, have to let you say whatever you want with our > resources. The 1st ammendment, which you cited before, > doesn't cover us at all. It ONLY refers to government, which > we are not. TriLUG had federal government priviledges which binds the organization to the first amendment _if_ it is providing a public forum. > > > Hacking and posting are not the same thing. Hacking is illegal. > > Posting on an open list is protected by the First Amendment. > > No, it is not. You're welcome to say whatever you want, but that > doesn't mean we HAVE to let you use our resources to do so. > If you want to setup your own list to say stuff, go right ahead. > The first ammendment does NOT cover any private entities. It's a private entity claiming federal tax-exemption and allegedly providing a public forum. > > > I agree this is not an appropriate forum for > > general political discussion. The point is that you cannot stop > > someone from making OT statements in an open forum. You can > > ignore them and you can disuade them but you cannot stop them. > > > > Anyone that has read extensively on Linux and FOSS understands > > that there are political issues surrounding these topics. Related > > political issues naturally lead to general political issues. > > No, they don't. If you want to talk about linux/FOSS and politics > related to that, fine, go ahead. But, general political talk is not > appropriate for this list and will not be tolerated anymore. Hmmm. > > > 2004-11-02 will come and go and we'll be done with politics for the > > time being. > > Oh, so we should let the list go to hell in a handbasket for just the > next three weeks and then things will get better? I don't think so. > Something else would always come along. I smell censorship and intolerance. I need some fresh air. -- Mike Moving forward in pushing back the envelope of the corporate paradigm. -- TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ TriLUG Member Services FAQ : http://members.trilug.org/services_faq/ TriLUG PGP Keyring : http://trilug.org/~chrish/trilug.asc
