Alright, let me clean up after myself a little bit more here... I didn't mean to say that David was speaking "for" TriLUG, merely that what I percieved to be his animosity towards the [EMAIL PROTECTED] (that really isn't there) was an example of the attitudes that exist within some of TriLUG. Surely, not that TriLUG as a whole is out to get us, or that sort of thing, just that there are some people who really do have this superiority complex about TriLUG "versus" the [EMAIL PROTECTED], when there shouldn't be a threat or competition there, and that attitudes just seems to have become evident, as we feared it would before, after this event.
I have a feeling that didn't make much sense, but oh well, it boils down to I went nuts and flew off in "defense" of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and didn't really pay that much attention to what was really going on in the process. I just have a tendency to be a little protective, after the exaggerated rumors of our death last year, we *are* still around, a little small, but we're working on it... Anyway, hope things are cleared up a little, Ian On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:32:04 -0500, David McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe William sees clearly what I was trying to say. But that > aside, let me make one thing clear: > > Ian, I do not speak on behalf of TriLUG, so you need to remove that > missconception now, and I am NOT a steering committee member of > TriLUG, so throwing your comments at the TriLUG organization for > having a "superiority complex" is way out of line. TriLUG has no such > atitude. You want to fuel the fire, you need to have a personal > discussion with me. I spoke on behalf of myself as a member of this > community. I also know I am not the only person who thought this way. > > Ian, let me also quote myself "TriLUG has far greater reaching power > than [EMAIL PROTECTED] (no offense NCSU folks, please take this with a grain > of > salt)." This was not said to take away from NCSULUG, though I can see > how it does and I apologize for that. However, taken "with a grain of > salt" you will see my perspective and position regarding TriLUG and > this event, thus not an "attack" on NCSULUG (or "attack" on TriLUG for > that matter). My point was clearly made and already addressed in this > thread. If this does not bring you satisfaction, please let us > continue OFF list. > > Thanks, > David McD > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:49:41 -0500 (EST), William Sutton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ian, I'd like to weigh in here. > > > > I wasn't at the Installfest on Saturday. I wish I could have been, but > > (for those who aren't aware) job circumstances have relocated me to > > Hunstville, Alabama. It's a bit of a hike to Raleigh. > > > > That said, I remember last year's Installfest at Wake Tech. We had so > > many people (and computers) there that we shut down a power circuit in the > > room. jtower personally accused me of sucking the life out of it with two > > monitors and a dual-Xeon tower. > > > > Comparing that with accounts of (maximum) 5 TriLUG members over the course > > of a day, I think what was said below was fair, and not in any slight to > > the NCSU folks. I think it was said in perspective of past efforts, and > > not to attach either group. > > > > >From the accounts I've read on this thread, I think TriLUG can do better. > > I wish I could help, but right now I'm not in a position to do so. > > > > William > > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Ian Meyer wrote: > > > > > That's what I heard. > > > > > > And if this is the sentiment from TriLUG overall (which I hope and > > > think that it isn't) I guess we ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) don't have to worry > > > about > > > working with you guys in the future. > > > > > > It had been discussed to do something like this in the past, and this > > > was the attitude that we talked about, and why we decided not to do > > > it. Sure we may be small, but do pretty darn well for our size. Before > > > you go spouting off about distros and networks, take a look at > > > Harrelson G108 and the local mirror (I believe its > > > mirror.linux.ncsu.edu, and it may be restricted to the NCSU IP block). > > > Its got a killer network, fat pipe, and always works without a hitch. > > > > > > The PXE/DHCP box I'm sure was convenient and helpful, but without it, > > > things wouldn't have fallen apart as more than one person has > > > mentioned. We've managed to get through plenty of installfests on our > > > own, and it looks like we'll keep it that way. > > > > > > Sure, more notice would have been great, but you know what, that > > > wasn't our fault. Don't lump it in with your perceived problems on our > > > end. We were approached and asked if TriLUG could "share" our > > > intstallfest, with the hopes that both our groups would benefit. I > > > would dare say that we benefited from having more people there than we > > > would have had, and TriLUG benefitted from having a great space to > > > use. If it was underutilized, thats not our fault. > > > > > > Heather-- If you're out there, and I've overstepped my bounds, by all > > > means, step in and say something, but I for one, will not be > > > supporting working with TriLUG again until we can get this superiority > > > complex sorted out. > > > > > > ~Ian Meyer > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:40:49 -0500, Tanner Lovelace > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:46:20 -0500, David McDowell > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > TriLUG, we can do better. To me, this past weekend felt like a > > > > > cop-out from the get-go. TriLUG rested on the shoulders of NCSU > > > > > (which also felt like nearly the last minute piggy-back in comparison > > > > > to previous TriLUG Installfests). Then small turnout and almost no > > > > > support from the vast TriLUG resource is saddening. I'm sure planning > > > > > had some to do with folks not having enough advance time to plan > > > > > calendars. > > > > > > > > Hey, I think we have a new volunteer to organize installfest from now > > > > on! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > So, David, when's the next one? Let us know what you want to > > > > do and where you want to have it. Make sure you budget for > > > > pizza too. I'm sure TriLUG will appreciate your contribution. :-P > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tanner > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tanner Lovelace > > > > clubjuggler at gmail dot com > > > > http://wtl.wayfarer.org/ > > > > http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=8127171 > > > > (fieldless) In fess two roundels in pale, a billet fesswise and an > > > > increscent, all sable. > > > > -- > > > > TriLUG mailing list : > > > > http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > > > > TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ > > > > TriLUG Member Services FAQ : http://members.trilug.org/services_faq/ > > > > TriLUG PGP Keyring : http://trilug.org/~chrish/trilug.asc > > > > > > > > > -- > > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > > TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ > > TriLUG Member Services FAQ : http://members.trilug.org/services_faq/ > > TriLUG PGP Keyring : http://trilug.org/~chrish/trilug.asc > > > -- > TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug > TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ > TriLUG Member Services FAQ : http://members.trilug.org/services_faq/ > TriLUG PGP Keyring : http://trilug.org/~chrish/trilug.asc > -- TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ TriLUG Member Services FAQ : http://members.trilug.org/services_faq/ TriLUG PGP Keyring : http://trilug.org/~chrish/trilug.asc
