Okay, since there's still a lot I have to learn, I'll ask the question:

What do you gain from having a firewall behind a NAT router with no port forwards? Speaking only in terms of inbound protection, of course. Obviously a firewall can filter traffic in both directions. Can one not depend on a forwardless NAT router to simply drop all incoming connection attempts? Are there packets, or methods of connecting, that can somehow sneak through such a NAT setup and reach machines on the inside?

In all the networks I administer, firewall + router is the standard operating procedure, so I'm just interested in more of the reasons why it's a good idea (that is, I don't need any convincing to start doing it).

As always, both lengthy explanations and links to reading material are appreciated equally. :-)

Cheers,
~B

P.S. A linux box with iptables configured on the "reject everything but _____" principle counts as "good," right? :-)



Cristobal Palmer wrote:
So the backstory is that we (Brian + Cerient) ate lunch, and I told
Brian about this... *ahem* ...friend of mine who insisted to me that a
router is always a firewall. When I say insisted, I mean he followed
me after I'd gotten up and left the room. I mean he emailed me the
next morning to follow up on his insistence.

I... uhh... have some weird friends. Seriously though, get a good
firewall everybody. The internets are dangerous.

Vice-chair-ily yours,
CMP

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