Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel

Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:42:34 -0700

holy crap, batman! my pea brain just short circuited on that command line :-) 

Jason wrote:
USE="X gtk2 gnome -esd -arts -alsa jpeg png apache2 php5 mysql qt ssl mjpeg mmx server opengl nptl nptlonly a52 avi dvd dvdread divx4linux dv encode frame mpeg ogg mp3 quicktime vorbis xvid screen sqlite imap" 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords 
=app-text/crm114-20060118       ~*

=dev-libs/tre-0.7.3             ~*
net-im/naim                     ~sparc
net-misc/vpnc                   ~sparc
=net-misc/nx-x11-1.5.0-r8       ~*
net-misc/nxserver-freenx        ~*
net-misc/nxcomp                 ~*
sys-fs/udev                     ~sparc
app-text/catdoc                 ~*
net-p2p/ctorrent                ~sparc

Jason


 On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:50:24AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are you using for:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=""?

How is it working? Are you using a GUI (which one)?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:48 AM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel

I just installed gentoo on a 500Mhz ultrasparc II box.. that count? ;)

Jason

On Wed, Aug
02, 2006 at 11:09:38AM -0400, Greg Brown wrote:

What ever happened to my Digital Unix box running on 64 bit Alpha

chips?

And that was 1995 or 1996.  One would think we would be further down 
the 64 bit path by this point.


On 8/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jim,

Same issues here with x64 as well. What a shame. I'll be content once
x64 Linux is a little more mainstream (and less buggy).

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Ray
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:38 PM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel

yes, really.  not that anyone cares to discuss winders in this group;
however, symantec antivirus corporate edition as well as winder's own
WSUS puke hard with 64 bit Windows 2003 Server.


>from a server point of view, that's a show stopper and very specific.

WinXP64 is not a server OS.  i'll defer judgement on 64 bit desktops 
to others since the majority of my customers have 32 bit hardware and

don't care.

all the best for a happy and safe move to NY just the same, though.

Regards,

Jim

Jim Ray, President
Neuse River Networks
2610 Vanderbilt Ave.
Raleigh, NC 27607-7247

tel: 919-838-1672
cell: 919-606-1772
http://www.Neuse.Net

Connecting You to the World since 1997

Matthew Lavigne wrote:

Really?  I have only seen that basically anything that runs as a 
service looks for 64 bit and then dies (namely Antivirus).  In my 
old shop (yes, it is not mine anymore) we installed and ran 
everything as

32 bit with the exception of antivirus.  In the course of 24 months
we

have never had a conflict where an application acted badly other 
then trying to install again a 32 bit antivirus on WinXP64.



A little more qualification would be nice rather then 
generalizations,

especially if you have some known bad applications.


Personally I have found very little that would force me to 64 bit 
Windows though the workstation that I have (along with the 6GB of 
system memory) would drive me to.  It is not difficult to use the 
/PAE
switch or several others to push the memory limits around 
(especially if you have Xeon CPUs).



This box isn't linux yet cause there is too much that I need to 
convert to a vmware image before I move it over...


Matthew Lavigne
Preparing to move to NY....



Quoting Jim Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Winders has 64 bit versions.  I don't use them because too many 
apps are broken.


Jim Ray, President
Neuse River Networks

tel: 919-838-1672
http://www.Neuse.Net

Connecting You to the World since 1997


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Brown
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:10 AM
To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] AMD vs. Intel


You bring up an interesting point.  My neighbor just purchased a 
new

laptop
that has a 64 bit processor.   Can XPee Home even take
advantage of a 64 bit
processor?


She's already fed up with the anti-virus she is using and has 
already asked about Linux (after hearing me yap about it for 
years now).  Hopefully she'll pull the trigger and I can intall 
Ubuntu as a social expirement.  I'd really like to see how well a

seriously non-techincal person manages with Ubuntu.

On 7/28/06, Kevin Flanagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That would have to fall in the "that depends" category.


What would you be doing with the system, for a laptop, I

see that HP

now has a Turion 64Bit laptop, interesting if you could

take advantage

of the processor.

If you are using much CPU to Memory transfer intensive

applications,

then AMD has the edge, otherwise I don't think that it

matters as much.

What about the other stuff, that says more in many cases.

What disks are available, SATA, or PATA, or SCSI?
What Video subsystem suits your needs best?
How much RAM can you get for the system in question?


As usual, there's a lot more to the "best" answer,

generally I think

that if you get a top tier system now it's likely enough for 
95% or more of folks, unless you're just that kind of geek who

needs to spec

out every last detail.

Then there's cost.....



Kevin






Greg Brown wrote:

It was not long ago at all, just last year, that the 
prevailing opinion of those on Trilug seemed to be that AMD 
was

leading the way

for chip

design

for the foreseeable future.  With Intel's latest 
announcements, along with the Core Duo, I was wondering what 
the

consensus opinion

was these days.

If you were going to build a linux desktop or laptop what

processor

would

you pick?  Intel, AMD, or something else?

3.... 2..... 1..... FIGHT!!

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