Tanner suggested that I bring the following message that I found in the
Maia-Users mailing list to the attention of all of the Postfix users in
the group, including the TriLUG sysadmins.

Brian



----- Forwarded message from Stephen Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----

>>> "Ryan Delany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/19/06 9:32 PM >>>
>Stephen,
>
>The reason the messages were getting retried over and over again was
>because the Maia box in this case was 450'ing the connections, and since
>the spam was coming from legit mail servers (not directly from the
>bot- infected machines), then according to RFC, the mail servers MUST
>attempt re- delivery for a specific number of times or for a specified time
>period.  The important thing to note is that today's bot viruses are
>designed better than in years past as they rely on the legit mail server
>for the ISP that the owner of the infected PC uses, instead of trying to
>spread directly from a built- in SMTP server.  I'm sure if you nslookup the
>IP addresses listed in the initial email, you will find the majority of
>them are legitimate mail servers behaving according to RFC as they are
>supposed to.  I suspect the main reason for this behaviour is the increase
>in ISPs blocking port 25 (since it violates the TOS for at least every ISP
>in the US), which would render a bot dead in it's tracks.  If the bot uses
>the actual mail server for the ISP, it will be much more successful in
>spreading since port 25 won't be blocked, and the mail servers will handle
>the burden of re- sending as necessary.
>
>The reason I use the verification caching db is to remain persistent
>across restarts, as a couple of the domains I filter for get constant
>dictionary attacks.  You are correct, postfix will maintain it's own db in
>memory until you restart postfix, but then you have to start all over.  So
>far in the last month, my verify db file has grown to about 48MB.  I don't
>consider that a huge amount of disk space, considering I have 245GB free
>at the moment.  Naturally, I keep an eye on the file and if it grows too
>big, I can easily turn it off.  Not to mention there is also some
>self- cleaning that happens in the verify db, so I don't anticipate it
>growing much larger than 50MB.
>
>Ryan

All very healthy and valid discussion...

Regarding the verification database, I think for the sake of 50Mb - I agree 
that tens of Mb's aren't even worth worrying about in most cases - I might take 
a look at implementing that option as well. It's a small advantage for my site, 
but also a small enough change that i'll give it a shot anyway.

Stephen Carter
Retrac Networking Limited
www: http://www.retnet.co.uk
Ph: +44 (0)7870 218 693
Fax: +44 (0)870 7060 056
CNA, CNE 6, CNS, CCNA, MCSE 2003

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