On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

Pretty much all Cat-5 stuff appears to be 4-pair and
RJ45.  As long as I can mesh that with the 2-pair RJ11
connector coming from the wall, it's just a matter of
getting the right parts.

Not sure if you're going to do this, but it's not a great
idea to mix plugs and jacks with different numbers of pins.
(I seem to remember you can put an RJ-11 plug into an RJ45 jack - the lands at the side of the RJ11 plug bend back
the extra wires in the jack).

Unfortunately, I think it's
still going to be messy:

wall ]=====[coupler]======[ Dual ]==[house phone]
    ]=====[       ]======[ jack |
                                ]==x==//==> (xover cable)

==//==[coupler]==[ Dual ]==[DSL modem]
                   jack ]
                        ]==[filter]==[fax]==[work phone]

sorry can't tell what you're doing here.

There are continuity testers available for RJ11, RJ45. They only measure continuity at DC, but thats good enough. Make sure your cables are multicore wire (which you can bend many times) rather than the default, of single core (which is cheaper and for plenums and is not meant to be bent or connected/disconnected multiple times).

I have a set which I bought for about $80 which is a pair of units that clip together. You put one on each end of the line. I couldn't find it with google, but I found this with google just now.

http://www.dataaccessories.com/t3016.html

It looks like you plug both ends into the same unit (it requires that both ends of the cable can be brought to the same place, which you can probably do).

Does that look reasonable?  If so, I need to know whether
a 4-pair crossover Cat-5 will work (I assume all the pairs
are reversed individually?) and whether an RJ11 plug going
into an RJ45 jack will Do The Right Thing.

ooh, dont do that.

I don't like two couplers and two dual-jacks, but I don't
see how else to do it.  Maybe I'm stupid or just too
tired.

If the crossover will work,

current ethernet hardware detects if you have a crossover and will handle it for you -y ou may not need a crossover cable. My crossover cables all are a color not used anywhere else in my setup and I tie a figure-8 knot in the wire, so it's obvious to anyone else that there's something different about this wire and they'll come and ask me "what's with the knot?".

I'll still
need RJ11 connectors on whatever I use between the dual-jack
and the house phone, the filter and the fax, and the fax and the
work phone.

isn't your DSL modem RJ45 on one side and RJ11 on the other?
Keep all your phone/fax on the RJ11 side and your ethernet on the RJ45 side

Joe

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