This is a summary of the development meeting that took place on Friday 11th march of 2016:
DRUPAL: - David has been setting up a copy of Trisquel's website to prepare the transition from Drupal 6 to Drupal 7. - He managed to make it work after some tweaks, specially with redirections. - Further work with the database needs to be done. DEBOOTSTRAP: - Quidam is currently working on the kernel helper, it seems finished but it needs more testing. - It is a priority task to make Flidas available to developers (Quidam and Aklis are on it). - Leny volunteered for reviewing the cleaning done to exclude non-free packages. All the meeting is attached to this letter.Title: #trisquel-dev
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(17:11:52) El tema de #trisquel-dev es: < sir123> Hi all, what's the greatest need in Trisquel development atm? < rah> patience(17:11:52) Tema para #trisquel-dev fijado por aklis!~aklis@unaffiliated/aklis a 11:39:06 en 09/03/16
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(18:00:11) aklis: Hi
(18:00:46) aklis: is everybody ready for the meeting?
(18:00:55) leny2010: I am
(18:01:11) aklis: ping a_slacker_here quidam Basstard` daroal francis7 Jobbe leny2010 levlaz pehjota rah soonum thum vinzv
(18:01:34) daroal: Hello, fellow Trisquel friends
(18:01:38) aklis: quidam , ping
(18:01:47) aklis: hi was around a few minutes ago, it seems
(18:01:48) a_slacker_here: Gretings
(18:01:52) a_slacker_here: :-)
(18:01:57) aklis: *he
(18:02:06) daroal: quidam told me just a bit ago he's had a meeting rescheduled around this time
(18:02:32) daroal: so quite probably he won't be able to be around that much
(18:02:34) aklis: does that mean he won't attend
(18:02:44) aklis: and we won't know about his tasks status?
(18:02:54) aklis: please tell him next time to send a mail with his update
(18:02:56) aklis: or something :(
(18:03:09) leny2010: LOL
(18:03:14) daroal: he also told me that he has made good progress with his stuff, he's finishing with the kernel and everything is ready for debootstrap
(18:03:17) aklis: ok, we can start
(18:03:25) aklis: daroal: ok, but no debootstrap?
(18:03:31) aklis: as we were past week...
(18:03:44) daroal: ^^
(18:03:45) aklis: kernel should not be related with debootstrap at this stage
(18:04:10) aklis: daroal: as you seems acting as proxy
(18:04:19) aklis: do you know what means "ready for debootstrap"?
(18:04:23) daroal: I only know that much, we've spoken a few lines since he was already busy
(18:04:49) aklis: I'm not aware of the place of the new repos :/
(18:04:56) aklis: ok
(18:05:15) aklis: he can speack for himself after the meeting, I think
(18:05:18) daroal: but you'll surely be able to get much more of a quick line from him, since you already know that stuff (I don't)
(18:05:23) daroal: :)
(18:05:44) aklis: ok, can you tell us about the drupal stuff?
(18:06:43) daroal: yep!
(18:06:51) aklis: go on, please
(18:07:34) daroal: I've been setting up a copy of the current site and database, and it's currently working after a certain amount of tweaks, mostly related with URL redirections
(18:08:01) aklis: dibabling mod_rewrite would be ok for me for now...
(18:08:16) aklis: daroal: did you clean up the database , so it can be published to certain people?
(18:08:40) daroal: There are quite a bit of little things that made it now work, like those related to the secure_pages module and civicrm
(18:09:02) aklis: I'm not aware of any current use of civicrm....
(18:09:16) aklis: you may disable it without any impact, but not sure
(18:09:21) daroal: no, the database is still loaded with personal user data, but I don't think we should be making this test site available to other people
(18:09:29) aklis: no
(18:09:44) aklis: afaik, we wanted to put everything under a git
(18:09:56) aklis: so we can ask for help, this doesn't mean everyone will have access
(18:10:02) daroal: I'll keep working on it at least to the point where it works properly as a full clone able to be migrated
(18:10:21) daroal: it is available in git repo copied from the production one
(18:10:30) aklis: yes, but that has a lot of private info
(18:10:39) daroal: but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me asking for help at this stage
(18:10:42) aklis: like db pass, payapl ones, api tokens...
(18:11:15) aklis: daroal: i thought your update would include the d6->d7 status
(18:11:20) daroal: still, besides setting up the new devel site, I've also studied that
(18:11:22) aklis: not only the dev environment
(18:11:27) daroal: I was just writing that :D
(18:11:40) daroal: as a summary
(18:11:41) aklis: ok
(18:11:52) aklis: so the only piece missing, is the db
(18:12:06) daroal: (always talking about modules that are being used now, not just installed)
(18:12:13) aklis: daroal: +1 to that
(18:12:25) leny2010: +1
(18:12:29) aklis: house cleanup, you can do that in production too
(18:12:30) daroal: 9 modules have been moved to core, so they could have some issues but not serious ones (hopefully)
(18:12:53) aklis: daroal: let the code speak
(18:12:55) aklis: don't worry ;)
(18:13:01) daroal: 13 modules are in development in D7, 8 of them with a lower stability rating than the current site
(18:13:15) daroal: and the worst part, 10 of them are not available in D7
(18:13:18) quidam: hi
(18:13:27) aklis: quidam: nice yo see you here
(18:13:32) quidam: I managed to move my meetings...
(18:13:45) aklis: quidam: you could also have asked about moving this one
(18:13:54) daroal: 2 of those are low priority, and 1 of them is kind of integrated into another, for the other 7 we'll need some other solution
(18:14:09) a_slacker_here: Wellcome Ruben
(18:14:09) daroal: and that's mostly it by now
(18:14:19) rah ha salido de la sala.
(18:14:31) aklis: ok, so the analsysis is done
(18:14:50) aklis: and , do you think next time you can show us what happened after the update?
(18:15:02) aklis: (we know things will be broken, so that's not a problem)
(18:15:09) daroal: yes, I will
(18:15:15) aklis: ok, good
(18:15:31) aklis: quidam:
(18:15:33) aklis: debootstrap!
(18:15:34) daroal: and I hope that things will be missing, but probably not that many will be broken
(18:15:47) aklis: where? how? wich known pitfalls are there?
(18:16:12) aklis: daroal: not a problem, the target of the task is to know the ammount of effort needed for migrating
(18:16:20) quidam: I finished the kernel helper today, needs some testing
(18:16:37) quidam: with that and the other commits I did recently, we should have all the helpers needed for debootstrap
(18:16:47) soonum: Hi
(18:16:49) aklis: is the kernel neded for debootstrap??
(18:16:52) quidam: I need a pair of xenial jails to build those
(18:16:57) a_slacker_here: soonum: Greetings:-)
(18:17:02) aklis: quidam: yes, I know
(18:17:04) quidam: aklis: the kernel is not needed, but I want to be able to boot too
(18:17:13) aklis: ok , I wasn't thinking on that for now
(18:17:23) aklis: only in the jenkins slave
(18:17:34) quidam: for that we need a temporary xenial one
(18:17:42) aklis: quidam: yes, but not on jenkins
(18:17:51) quidam: no, I can build those manually
(18:17:55) quidam: and push them to the repo
(18:18:03) quidam: then we build flidas slaves
(18:18:07) aklis: +1
(18:18:12) quidam: and the regular helpers can be run
(18:18:12) aklis: that was the point
(18:18:28) aklis: I thought after your last weeks commits, that debootstrap shold be avaliable
(18:18:31) aklis: but need to be built
(18:18:34) aklis: kernel is another story
(18:18:50) aklis: but having flidas in jenkins allows for others to contribute
(18:18:56) quidam: actually I can just use chroots, we don't really need pbuilder xenial jails for that
(18:19:00) aklis: and you can focus on kernrel, without other roadblocks
(18:19:06) aklis: quidam: as you wish
(18:19:27) aklis: once the first version is built, we can do a rebuild of each package
(18:19:31) aklis: in a pure flidas environment
(18:19:42) aklis: that's why we all want debootstrap!
(18:19:47) aklis: (people cheers)
(18:19:52) aklis: :P
(18:19:59) leny2010: 8)
(18:20:25) aklis: I understand you want to advance with the kernel, but making flidas avaliable to developers is also a high priority task
(18:20:30) daroal: too busy translating to cheer :P
(18:20:38) quidam: noted
(18:20:53) aklis: quidam: for next week
(18:21:00) aklis: can we count on that?
(18:21:05) quidam: right now we have the upstream repos but not the flidas ones yet, correct?
(18:21:09) aklis: quidam: yes
(18:21:18) aklis: you can remove everything and start from 0
(18:21:18) quidam: and extra cleaning will be needed
(18:21:25) aklis: and if you document it, it would be awesome
(18:21:35) quidam: ok
(18:22:02) aklis: ok, my turn
(18:22:06) quidam: so in parallel to building the helpers we need to check that the xenial repos in our server are fully clean
(18:22:16) aklis: ?
(18:22:25) aklis: quidam: yes, remove the xenial repos if you want
(18:22:29) aklis: and start the task from 0
(18:22:35) quidam: no, we need them, what I mean
(18:22:36) aklis: I think they were cleaned the standar way
(18:22:50) aklis: but I don' know what that "extra cleaning" means
(18:23:01) quidam: is that the filters for trusty may leave non-free packages on xenial
(18:23:12) aklis: oh, ok
(18:23:26) quidam: so it needs to be reviewed
(18:23:30) aklis: they will be development repos, so mistakes and bugs are expecteed
(18:23:42) aklis: don't worry so much about that for now
(18:24:18) aklis: (my idea is that once people is ready for betatesting, they will help to improve the banned package list)
(18:24:38) quidam: actually it is needed before debootrstrap
(18:24:47) aklis: why?
(18:25:00) quidam: because the repo for flidas would be filled up, and published to mirrors
(18:25:09) quidam: and it needs to be reasonably clean
(18:25:10) aklis: no if you don't put it in archive.t.i
(18:25:15) aklis: but in a development domain
(18:25:31) quidam: uh
(18:25:37) quidam: well, that is an option
(18:25:50) quidam: but it was never done that way
(18:25:54) aklis: yeah
(18:26:01) aklis: it was never done so early,also
(18:26:10) quidam: it was, actually
(18:26:12) aklis: xenial is not published, and trisquel8 has a kernel xD
(18:26:15) quidam: but that is not the point
(18:26:28) aklis: I thought that you usually waited for things to being more stable
(18:26:46) aklis: so, for next week
(18:26:48) quidam: the point is that we cannot have non-free software in our repos, devel included
(18:26:51) aklis: a published flidas repo
(18:26:55) aklis: quidam: yes if its a bug
(18:27:23) quidam: it is not such a long task to do, I'm just mentioning that it needs to be done
(18:27:41) quidam: and it can be done separately from my work on the basic helpers
(18:27:44) aklis: quidam: ok, I want you to focus on debootstrap, so more people can be involved
(18:27:55) quidam: if anybody wants to volunteer for the cleaning review
(18:28:10) leny2010: I will
(18:28:21) aklis: aaaaand we have a volunteer
(18:28:25) aklis: quite easy
(18:28:26) quidam: nice :)
(18:28:30) a_slacker_here: Awesome !
(18:29:04) quidam: the upstream repos are here
(18:29:07) quidam: http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/upstream/
(18:29:09) fpbot: “Index of /repos/upstream”
(18:29:26) aklis: or in packages.ubuntu.com }:-)
(18:29:54) quidam: and we need to clean things like... http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/upstream/pool/main/l/linux-raspi2/
(18:30:00) quidam: from a quick check
(18:30:11) aklis: the git project is here: https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/ubuntu-purge
(18:30:21) quidam: aklis: no, the one in our server is already partially clean
(18:30:26) aklis: and remember, you need to add the source name of the packages, not the binary ones
(18:30:47) leny2010: Yep :$
(18:30:51) quidam: usually we need to check for nvidia/ati binary driver packages, or extra kernel packages like that one I linked
(18:30:51) aklis: quidam: yes, I did the standar cleanup
(18:30:59) aklis: using for base the trusty list
(18:31:22) quidam: yeah, but they add new kernels and non-free drivers in each ubuntu release
(18:31:22) aklis: ok, we are in the 30 minute mark
(18:31:26) quidam: they are usually easy to find
(18:31:33) aklis: so, in our effort to keep this meetings short
(18:31:49) leny2010: OK, then commits to ubuntu-purge as a result ?
(18:31:54) aklis: I'm going to give my update, then we can finish the meeting , and continue talking about purgin xenial
(18:31:58) aklis: leny2010: +1
(18:32:04) aklis: ok, I will be brief
(18:32:14) aklis: I merged everything on the queue
(18:32:19) quidam: leny2010: I just created http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/upstream/pool/find.txt
(18:32:24) quidam: that lists all files in the pool
(18:32:33) aklis: but there is one package pending to be checked
(18:32:39) quidam: so you don't have to walk around looking for files
(18:32:48) leny2010: Thanks
(18:33:08) aklis: I don't know how to reproduce the bug, but as we are also user-driven, I will accept t his once I build it:
(18:33:20) Jobbe: aklis: you pinged me ?
(18:33:23) aklis: https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/merge_requests/142#note_1587
(18:33:24) fpbot: “Add more updated version of sunpinyin-data (#142) | Merge Requests | trisquel / package-helpers | Gitlab”
(18:33:32) aklis: Jobbe: yes, I pinged everyone in this channel
(18:33:37) Jobbe: ah
(18:33:39) aklis: as we are having a development meeting
(18:33:40) aklis: :P
(18:33:50) Jobbe: I'm just here as a lurker
(18:34:00) a_slacker_here: lurker?
(18:34:05) aklis: Jobbe: that's not a problem
(18:34:13) aklis: ignore my pings on friday afternoons ;)
(18:34:30) aklis: or , better, feel free to join
(18:34:37) Jobbe: I host a triqquel mirror, just keeping an eye out whats happening :P
(18:34:52) a_slacker_here: Jobbe: no problem
(18:34:53) aklis: Jobbe: be aware, a new distro is to be releaesd
(18:35:01) aklis: quidam: btw, we should remove the unmaintained ones
(18:35:11) Jobbe: aklis: I am aware of trisquel 8 :)
(18:35:13) aklis: they are still there...
(18:35:26) quidam: aklis: +1
(18:35:33) quidam: Ill do that before adding flidas
(18:35:38) Jobbe: i sub to the trisquel-devel mailing list :)
(18:35:39) aklis: ok
(18:35:43) quidam: with a day in between, to clear up on mirrors
(18:35:50) aklis: ok
(18:35:52) quidam: so there is no size bump
(18:36:01) quidam: (or not a huge one)
(18:36:15) Jobbe: I have about 60% left on that partition trisquel is on
(18:36:16) quidam: I'll send notice to announce list
(18:36:26) aklis: https://trisquel.info/mirmon/index.html
(18:36:39) aklis: Jobbe: is eu.mirror.gnu.dk yours?
(18:36:44) Jobbe: yes
(18:36:54) Jobbe: ugh
(18:36:59) aklis: xDDDD
(18:37:00) aklis: funny
(18:37:05) Jobbe: something is wrong :P
(18:37:11) aklis: Jobbe: don't worry, this happens from time to time
(18:37:17) aklis: with one or other...
(18:37:17) Jobbe: yeah
(18:37:24) Jobbe: i accidently filled the disk once
(18:37:27) aklis: you appeared in the trisquel meeting
(18:37:28) Jobbe: i thought i had fixed that up
(18:37:31) aklis: you got a task :P
(18:37:37) Jobbe: haha
(18:37:51) Jobbe: I just gotta run the cronjob manually
(18:38:01) aklis: ok, no worries, just be aware...
(18:38:09) quidam: I'm checking the fsf one...
(18:38:30) aklis: seems ok...
(18:38:37) aklis: ok, quick resume:
(18:39:00) aklis: * daroal will show us what happens when you update the current site from drupal7 to drupal8
(18:39:10) daroal: D6 to D7, but yeah
(18:39:12) aklis: * quidam will show us how to debootstrap flidas
(18:39:22) aklis: sorry, I'm bad with versions xDDDDD
(18:39:31) Jobbe: Alright, it's updating
(18:39:40) aklis: Jobbe: nice, thanks
(18:40:16) quidam: fsf mirror is a bit old but running in 2 hours
(18:40:24) a_slacker_here: aklis: You are very good at this :O
(18:40:25) daroal: aklis: Trisquel 8 should warrant a D8 site, but I've found even more currently used modules without a D8 counterpart
(18:40:43) aklis: daroal: +1 to that, we need to check what needs to be done
(18:40:51) aklis: in a better way than "d6 to d7" migration
(18:41:00) aklis: ah, ok, you were talking about a future drupal8...
(18:41:11) daroal: yep
(18:41:25) aklis: yeah, and drupal9 some day, but we need to improve our drupal-update-fu
(18:41:34) aklis: or we will finish with d6->d11
(18:41:35) aklis: xDD
(18:41:35) Jobbe: Alright
(18:41:40) Jobbe: should be up-to-date now
(18:41:42) aklis: ok, questions?
(18:41:54) aklis: this isn't a meeting now, it's an irc channel!
(18:42:01) aklis: and I like it ;)
(18:42:05) aklis: endmeeting
(18:42:09) a_slacker_here: Ok
(18:42:14) aklis: thanks everyone...
(18:42:15) leny2010: I played with live-cd
(18:42:17) daroal: aklis: you miss a meeting bot, I see
(18:42:28) a_slacker_here: Thanks to you
(18:42:39) aklis: daroal: is also a nice way to tell that the meeting ended
(18:42:46) aklis: daroal: I have an spreadsheet for now ;)
(18:42:50) Legimet: I missed this, but why isn't the Abrowser in toutatis up-to-date?
(18:43:02) aklis: Legimet: because the patch that worked for belenos
(18:43:04) Jobbe: re-enabling crontab job, I'll keep an eye on the mirror the next few days
(18:43:05) aklis: didn't work for toutatis
(18:43:14) aklis: it needs review, it's a big package
(18:43:22) Legimet: what patch?
(18:43:30) aklis: I thought I had it fixed, but no, it didn't build with my patch
(18:43:55) aklis: I think this one:
(18:43:56) aklis: https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/commit/f027e856e2d2f672a7ec776c92a669742d3d3fa0
(18:43:58) fpbot: “Abrowser: updated enable-js-options.patch for v43 (f027e856) | Commits | trisquel / package-helpers | Gitlab”
(18:44:03) aklis: both were broken at the same time
(18:44:15) aklis: after that patch, belenos one works, but toutatis doesn't
(18:44:18) Legimet: then disable the patch for now
(18:44:21) quidam: that will not apply again
(18:44:28) aklis: no, without the patch it won't build either
(18:44:29) aklis: xD
(18:44:32) quidam: we should just drop the patch
(18:44:44) aklis: quidam: +1 to that
(18:44:49) quidam: the patch only affects the xul version of the settings, wich is not available anymore
(18:44:56) aklis: I tried to fix this bug
(18:44:57) Jobbe: how often does mirmon update ?
(18:45:04) quidam: but the feature (disable js) is available though the aboutabrowser extension
(18:45:06) Legimet: yes, having an up-to-date abrowser is more important than a patch
(18:45:09) quidam: so we don't need it anymore
(18:45:16) aklis: but I left it aside,
(18:45:39) aklis: Jobbe: I think hourly
(18:45:49) aklis: but don't worry, we see it from time to time
(18:46:01) aklis: and if the drift is bigger than a week,we usually try to ping the mirror owner
(18:46:15) aklis: 8.5 days, and I remember we talked in #trisquel not long ago
(18:46:18) Jobbe: this is actually the first time in the few years i've run my mirror server where i had the mirror go bad :P
(18:46:22) leny2010: aklis is this abrowser you were doing a code update as well as updates for the recent USN build?
(18:46:25) aklis: and all mirrors were in a good state
(18:46:27) Legimet: so, get rid of the patch immediately
(18:46:34) aklis: leny2010: no
(18:46:50) aklis: ok, now I have another meeting
(18:46:55) aklis: I have to go, sorry
(18:47:02) daroal: aklis: one quick question, because I'm not sure if this had been decided at the previous meeting
(18:47:04) aklis: quidam: ^ ^
(18:47:32) quidam: Legimet: which patch is yours?
(18:47:47) daroal: quidam: will there be updated iso images for Trisquel 7 at some time soon, or are they still dependant on the updating of the build system?
(18:47:57) Legimet: quidam: i'm talking about the patch that is preventing the abrowser build in toutatis
(18:48:02) daroal: aklis: I switched targets :)
(18:48:15) aklis: daroal: you got the good one
(18:48:21) quidam: daroal: that is on aklis side. he wants to set the new system for making new t7 images
(18:48:26) aklis: xDDD
(18:48:37) aklis: ok, we have a critical bug
(18:48:40) aklis: images are needed asap
(18:48:57) aklis: people with trisquel mini, is not able to update the system using the gui
(18:49:00) daroal: yes, there are actually a couple of very confusing ones
(18:49:01) leny2010: I'm working on images have been all week
(18:49:07) quidam: Legimet: oh, I see. I thought we were discussing two patches (the one I mentioned and one provided by you)
(18:49:09) aklis: so, we should be having images ASAP
(18:49:23) leny2010: LOL - when they're done
(18:49:23) aklis: I wanted help to do them with my system
(18:49:37) aklis: because the current one is heavly tied to devel.t.i
(18:49:47) leny2010: Yep, but no ./auto - so it's fragile
(18:49:50) aklis: but , as said, any way is valid
(18:50:19) quidam: aklis: I think building a new mini iso with the old system would be a quick job
(18:50:25) quidam: and good enough to fix the bug
(18:50:35) aklis: quidam: but it needs to be 7.1
(18:50:36) leny2010: However, there's goodness in knowing what the prior art was
(18:50:42) aklis: so update-manager triggers the update
(18:50:51) aklis: and hopefully, installs the missing package
(18:51:05) quidam: not sure what you mean
(18:51:12) aklis: apt-get update/upgrade
(18:51:24) aklis: doesn't install new packages added as dependencies to metapackages
(18:51:25) quidam: for that you just fix the metapackage
(18:51:31) aklis: ok?
(18:51:43) aklis: you have to run a dist-upgrade, and to force that
(18:51:52) aklis: I think a new release does it
(18:52:03) aklis: sorry, meeting
(18:52:06) quidam: no, that does nothing
(18:52:15) quidam: the current installs can only be fixed by hand
(18:52:16) aklis: I have to go, the other meeting pays my bills
(18:52:17) aklis: bye
(18:52:25) leny2010: cya
(18:52:38) a_slacker_here: goodbye
(18:52:51) daroal: aklis: bye
(18:52:56) quidam: we can discuss that in more detail next week
(18:53:17) quidam: no changes to the the metapackages or release schema would fix current installs of mini
(18:53:23) quidam: it needs to be fixed by hand, by the user
(18:53:38) quidam: creating new images fixes it for new users
(18:53:53) leny2010: Then we need a bypass documenting in the Issues database
(18:53:58) quidam: and images can be built with the old scripts, or new ones
(18:54:14) leny2010: Agreed - but new ones are for Flidas too
(18:54:26) quidam: imho I would not change the build method within the same release
(18:54:44) quidam: I would just fix the metapackage, build a new mini image, and move on to focus on t8
(18:54:50) quidam: with a new build system
(18:54:50) leny2010: Then you're shooting at many birds in one release
(18:55:03) quidam: we always do
(18:55:13) leny2010: What's the package which needs adding?
(18:55:42) quidam: update-manager I think
(18:56:24) leny2010: OK, I'll switch to playing with makeiso and ubuntu-purge for the next weel
(18:56:43) leny2010: week
(18:57:04) quidam: thanks!
(18:57:13) quidam: ok, so we can wrap up I guess
(18:57:20) quidam: questions? did we miss any topic?
(18:57:22) leny2010: I guess
(18:57:37) daroal: I think we covered the most urgent ones
(18:57:50) quidam: ok
(18:58:24) quidam: thanks everybody, and sorry I'm being inpunctual and unreliable... too much work at this moment
(18:58:31) a_slacker_here: Don't worry
(18:58:50) a_slacker_here: you are with us :-)
(18:59:14) a_slacker_here: quidam: I need to ask you somthing, do you have time
(18:59:15) quidam: could somebody volunteer to make some minutes out of this chat log, and publish both to the devel list?
(18:59:15) a_slacker_here: ?
(18:59:23) a_slacker_here: I will
(18:59:27) quidam: a_slacker_here: very little, but go ahead
(18:59:28) a_slacker_here: I promise
(19:01:08) a_slacker_here: I asked the question in private
(19:01:20) a_slacker_here: Because it is off-topic
(19:01:39) daroal: ok, thanks everybody then, have a nice weekend :)
(19:01:51) a_slacker_here: Thank you
(19:01:57) soonum: Thanks
(19:04:11) leny2010: So Long all on yer
(19:04:35) quidam: thanks guys!
(19:05:23) a_slacker_here: Til next time
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