En 29/05/25 14:27, Heime escribió:
As it stands, there are simply too many stumbling blocks.  If we want
people to actually use the tools we're building, we ought to make it
just a bit easier for them to get started.

The point of using a point release distro is that the software is well tested and configured for that point in time, that's also one of the reasons is very well stable among the bast repository ecosystem. That's ~65 thousand packages.

I've mentioned this before, and old package on a point release distro like Trisquel, Ubuntu, Debian is not an issue, as long as the package can continue to provide the function it was doing when it got in the repo, if that package has some security issues it has to be addressed, but that doesn't mean it will get updated to the latest, some times, a single change can fix the issue without disturbing the package, that's the most advised path, when a new distro release comes out, then we can have all the new stuff at that point in time.

For the most part Debian has some great tools and platforms to modify, (re-)build and compile software, if you take the time to get familiar with them then you'll notice is much easier than trying to look for documentation on packages that has not being "debianized" at all.

So in sum, the tools in place are already simple to follow, I think you may (or may not ) be missing the potential and work already built-in out of APT and the Debian building tools, even at the debian folder on any package on the repo. Jumping out in the dark, sure it might be overwhelming, but once you are familiar with the process, it's not that hard.

That said, if you want always the latest and greatest you can use the Guix repository, maybe something like Parabola (a rolling release distro) other than having to compile from source yourself every single time which might get complex on a LTS release.

Regards.

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