Well, h-node wasn't really made for this purpose. I'm not saying it's a bad idea or that it wouldn't be welcomed. Part of the problem I feel is that companies also purport to be freedom respecting and aren't. At what point do you classify a company as being freedom respecting? Is it when they only ship chipsets which have free software drivers? Or do you do it when only use chipsets which are supported in some way by the chipset vendor? For example HP offers that although NVIDIA does not.

NVIDIA's stance on free software is hostile. They've taken an approach that hinders development of a free driver. However there is a free software driver for older chipsets that was reverse engineered. Do we say that is OK to sell such hardware or not? libre.thinkpenguin.com offers one card with an NVIDIA graphics chipset that is well supported by the free nouveau driver. I'm not a fan of NVIDIA over this. However we are offering one card. We won't do that for laptops and desktops for various reasons. For one the newer graphics chipsets are not sufficiently (and at all) supported by any free driver.

FSF has a program which we will be participating in. It's not so much a list as an endorsement.

I'm kind of of the perspective that we need to support whomever is doing the best job for any particular category of hardwre. If that is Atheros then we should support Atheros. If that is HP we should support HP. If that is Intel we should support Intel.

Now these companies don't provide freedom friendly chipsets everywhere. They only tend to do it where someone has convinced hire ups that it would be beneficial to the company for them to do so.

There are problems with this though. For instance Intel graphics chips are tied to Intel CPUs. Intel has been uncooperative with the coreboot (a free BIOS project) though. Do we classify them as hostile or not? AMD has also been hostile though. AMD does work with the coreboot project although has not resolved the issue of shipping a partially free driver that is dependent on a non-free component.

Then if you get to the retail side of things there really isn't anybody out there selling freedom friendly hardware except us. Sure- there are companies claiming to do so. But what they actually ship is hardware dependent on non-free drivers/firmware. Some of it you won't even be able to make work with a free distribution because of digital restrictions in these systems.

The reaction of the people running them is not good. They give poor excuses as to why they can't ship freedom friendly hardware rather than fixing the problem (which is not technically an issue for them).



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