Sorry for taking so long to answer. I've had a lot of activism to do lately with the knowledge society project here in Ecuador. El 23/04/14 10:21, [email protected] escribió: > You seem to think I do not care about freedom and free software which > is like putting words in my mouth. That's what offends me because you > make it sound like I'm willing to sacrifice my freedom for > convienience which I do not want to do. The reason I was here was > because I wanted a free software OS. What is wrong with me trying to > use a Distro that is non-free and try to make changes to it so that it > is free? Is that not what Trisquel is? Didn't they take Ubuntu, remove > non-free parts and made their own distro out of it? I need a "cutting > edge" system as someone on here said, newer than Trisquel, I am just > disappointed why the free software movement cannot have a more > "cutting edge" system like Ubuntu is, but without the non-free > software. I thought I could install ubuntu 14.04 and simply not run > Non-Free software and have a system I knew was free.
I am sorry. I have re-read your message and in fact, you do value freedom: "Intel Chips do work in freedom, including the one I have, unfortunately Trisquel and all the other distros do not seem to keep up with hardware support. Bummer, I'm going to have to install Ubuntu 14.04. Perhaps I can remove some non-free packages after? At least it works and is better than Windows :/ " But removing non-free software is not that easy. When you have learned, it is easier. Give it a try by reading about the way it is done in Trisquel and then helping out with the process. The easiest way to be free is to be careful when choosing new hardware. Nevertheless, there are ways to solve SOME hardware issues. And some of them are easier while some are harder. > That said after I installed Ubuntu I realized it was harder than I > thought it would be since they have non-free parts in the regular > repos. I thought their repos were devided up better than that, like > how Debian does it. Since they're not, I uninstalled it. Instead, I > installed Debian. Better for your freedom! > Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Debian is 100% free software in it's > based install as long as you use the main repo, there are no non-free > blobs in it's kernel, nor are there any other non-free drivers or > software. Thus, Debian is a 100% free software OS by default. The only > reason the FSF does not support Debian is because they have the > contrib and non-free repos, and some parts of the OS suggest you use > it in some cases. I know the FSF cannot suggest Debian because of this > as it can lead to people to enable such repos and use non-free > software, as it's a temptation and it can cause confusion, but because > I am aware of the issues I choose *not* to enable the repos and I > ignore these suggestions (I didn't get any but for example, flash > player suggestions in Iceweasel). I know it's not perfect, but you > cannot tell me it's as bad as running Windows. It's all I can use to > use free software, and it is 100% free software, which makes me happy. > If Trisquel (or Gnewsense) was based on something more modern like > Debian Jessie then this probably wouldn't be a problem. We cannot assure that Trisquel is 100% free. We do our best for it to be free. But we always find non-free parts. We do not check Debian. For free GNU distros it is a critical bug to include non-free software. For Debian it isn't. > I know Jessie is testing, but it seems stable enough for me to use. That is not a big issue. Freedom is a bigger issue than stability. > So I installed Debian Wheezy. It does not have an EFI boot loader and > my PC has no legacy boot option, so I had to put one in myself that I > copied from Trisquel's image. (Which makes things hard for people who > are not too tech savy, it means people with modern hardware are > helpless to switch, which is what I was complaining about). I had to > type a lot of GRUB command just to get the installer to boot which was > annoying. Once I installed Debian, again, Xorg wouldn't launch just > like Trisquel as the system was too outdated. (Old Xorg and Kernel was > 3.2). I changed the repos to jessie, did a dist-upgrade. I do not have > contrib. I do not have non-free. I am now running Debian Jessie after > a lot of hacking, and I now have Xorg running with full 3D > acceleartion with 100% free software. You wont find any non-free > software on my machine now. I wouldn't assure that. But definitely, with Debian you are better than with Ubuntu. Nevertheless, don't put down your guard so easily. > Anyway, here is the lspci output: > > Slot: 00:02.0 > Class: VGA compatible controller [0300] > Vendor: Intel Corporation [8086] > Device: ValleyView Gen7 [0f31] > SVendor: Acer Incorporated [ALI] [1025] > SDevice: Device [0845] > Rev: 0c > h-node.com says the following when inserting your data in the part where it says "paste the output of the lspci command: lspci -vmmnn": The following devices has not been found in the database: can you please insert them? *videocard* - ValleyView Gen7 * *device type:* VGA compatible controller * *vendor:* Intel Corporation * *VendorID:ProductID code of the device*: 8086:0f31 So we have no info from h-node. But you have not sent us the other info I asked you. It should be done on Trisquel because it will be the only one that will report the problem: dmesg | grep -i firmware Another option is to add the linux-Libre kernel from the .deb package. It will also report when it will not load non-free software. > The thing that frustrates me is I find a lot of the other FSF approved > free software distros do not make it easy to install. Debian was the > easiest I could get, I am not a developer, only a hobbiest. All of my > hardware runs on free software, the graphics and the Wifi module > (atheros and intel), but there is no FSF approved OS that easily works > with this hardware as it's "cutting edge". This cuts off a lot of > people from switching. If someone like the FSF would back a true free > software system based on something with newer software, like one based > on Debian Jessie, then I would know it would get lots of support > because it a.) would be modern with good hardware support, and b.) > would be backed by a big orginzation. I think it would be nice if the > FSF would do that, it would make life easier for a lot of non-techies > and people like me who barely knows what they're doing. What could you contribute to make this possible? Everyone can chip in. Trisquel is much easier than the RedHat that I tried in 1999. It would be nice to have more help than complaints. I understand your frustrations. But please understand that we have to cope with many more than you. Please give us a hand and also contribute to make us feel the tough job we do is worth it. That someone thinks that what we do is cool at least regardless that it doesn't even feed us. > So with that said, I think Parabola would probably work since it's > based on Arch, but I do not have it downloaded. I may try it later, > but Debian seems to be running nicely now :) If you could not configure video in Trisquel, Parabola would be much worse for you. Parabola is cutting edge. But it was made to like a hot-rod...DIY. It is great for learning how the operating system works. -- Saludos libres, Quiliro Ordóñez 600 8579
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