On 25.07.2014 04:13, [email protected] wrote:
> I'm actually shocked how high your prices are! Your little adapter is
> 17x what I can get it for off eBay! [ everybody laugh ]
I was decent in my previous post, but I see you are bulling me. I
expected more from you, Chris.
I am not aware of offerings on eBay of this device. And Tehnoetic
TET-N150, ThinkPenguin TP-N150USB and Unex DNUA-93F is exactly the same
device device (I acknowledge it's Unex DUNA-93F on my product page).
So my little adapter is your little adapter, is Unex's little adapter.
And I didn't buy it for $2, even in buk it costed me about the same
price you expect a wifi adapter to be available in resellers stores.
Although I bought it at this price from the manufacturer.
> I'm just trying to point out how silly this is. Prices a year ago were
> higher than they are today and we've dropped them accordingly. Obviously
> the product offerings above are significantly different too. It's like
> comparing apples to oranges. With a $2 wifi adapter you don't actually
> expect the product to work, be supported, etc.
Really, you are doing FUD?
> We set the price for the item your referring to YEARS ago. The costs
> have come down since then and we spent months testing the waters to
> figure out what volume would work to get the profit margins as thin as
> possible. As it stands I'd be surprised if you can withstand the
> competition from us.
I've noticed you were trying to put me out of business as soon as I
entered the market and applied for RYF. In a post on this forum, you
specifically pointed out that ThinkPenguin has cut the prices almost to
half and the offer is better than one can find at competition. I was the
competition you were referring to, because once FSF has announced the
RYF certification for Tehnoetic TET-N150, you asked them to update it so
it states ThinkPenguin ships to Europe as well.
> Not the other way around. And by that I mean your
> not making sufficient profit at this price point to make it worthwhile
> selling. At least not in small quantities.
You made enough profit last year to have the power to try to force me
out this year. But I will not quit, instead I am working on extending my
offer with other freedom-respecting devices under the Tehnoetic brand.
> What is most humorous about this competition thing is that it would
> appear you responded to us and not the other way around. My colleagues
> telling me you had set a much higher price originally and it was only
> that by the time you announced it we had dropped our prices. It was only
> then that you lowered yours.
That's incorrect. I started by having prices lower than you and
continued to adjust them so I can stay competitive. I payed 50 euros for
an adapter from you in December. (And it arrived in 30 days.) My initial
offer was 45 euros and shipping was included as it always have been for
Tehnoetic TET-N150.
For 1-year warranty, the cheapest shipping which can choose that can
take 6-10 ("to most destinations, may exceed 30") days, you get
ThinkPenguin TPE-N150USB for €24,5.
You get Thenoetic TET-N150 with 2-year warranty and shipping up to 5
days for €25.
If you choose air mail for a comparable shipping time of 1-5 days, you
get your ThinkPenguin TPE-N150USB for €31.
If you choose a longer warranty (you have only 3-year option left), you
get it for €35.
So is my Tehnoetic project small? Yes. Does it have better offer than
ThinkPenguin? Yes. In all cases above, my offer is better in at least
one regard (being that the warranty, the price, or fast air mail shipping).
> Lastly I've been contributing to the free software world a lot longer
> than ThinkPenguin has been around. So have a lot of the people around
> here. We're all struggling to one degree or another. That's no excuse to
> be rude to one another.
Excuse me? I only asked people to not forget Tehnoetic TET-N150 is also
RYF-certified, just becuase ThinkPenguin financially sponsors Trisquel,
when advicing new comers what wifi adapters they should buy to work with
free software. And if that's not enough, competition makes offers better
for users and I am still small having sold less than 100 devices and
need support.
> I'd have much rather worked with you than
> against you.
Of course you did, Chris. I didn't feel working with you, because I
didn't like the way you were doing business or your philosophy
(freedom-"friendly", nonfree BIOS, nonfree distros and you wanting to
become mainstream) and because I think independence is important and is
possible in the free software world we are building.
> I don't wish to bash your efforts, but when you so
> blatantly attack a project I've worked several years on it does get
> under my skin.
You have your feelings hurt because I told people the truth. And in
response you spread FUD ("$2 adapter", "x17 on eBay") and bullied me
("everybody laugh").
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