I am advancing GNU/Linux-libre beginning with the title.

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To prove my dedication to the cause is greater than yours I'd like to condemn the Free Software Foundation for calling the system just "GNU/Linux". It's unforgivable that nobody in the free software community envisioned a day when the mainline kernel would include non-free software-or that we would have a new derivative work called “Linux-libre”. I'd also like to apologize on behalf of ThinkPenguin for not having seen this either.

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For those who know the history of the Linux kernel it wasn't always inclusive of non-free software. There was even a time when RMS didn't insist on people calling Linux GNU/Linux. This was a time before the "open source" movement.

ThinkPenguin supports free software on distributions that include some non-free software. This is no different than what the Free Software Foundation itself recommends/enables via some of its pages:

“You can install free software applications on your Windows machine and use them instead of proprietary software from Microsoft and others. “

Source: https://www.fsf.org/working-together/moving/windows

They aren't talking about X Windows here either.

Most people here didn't switch to Trisquel or any other 100% free distribution overnight. Ensuring users of distributions which include some non-free software are properly supported is an enabler of free software adoption.

I have taken steps to convince Debian to change its policy, include the free firmware package and recommend it to be installed, instead of the nonfree one.

A few things. Debian core already has a policy of excluding non-free blobs and the reason for its current inclusion of the ath9k-htc and carl9170 firmware in the non-free repository is complicated. See below for details. Debian already goes by the name Debian GNU/Linux too... so I'm unsure what policy or part your trying to change.

ThinkPenguin has also made efforts to get a variety of different distributions to include carl9170 and ath9k-htc firmware (both under free software licenses). After talking to different people from a variety of distributions quite a few responded by including ath9k-htc firmware and/or fixing related issues.

That said I've corresponded with the Debian package maintainers and can actually tell you what the problem is/was thats holding the free firmware back from being included in the main repository. It's the unusual toolchain and size. Everything in the mainline kernel has to compile in an automated and standard way. This is the Debian policy. As carl9170 and ath9k-htc do not follow the norms how one would go about including it is unclear. I don't claim to have a perfect memory, but this is my recollection of the situation.

And let us not forget the logo is a penguin and GNU mascots weren't among penguin mascots at the ThinkPenguin stand advertised here.

First of all you know nothing of what I attempted years ago, nor know of the issues were with licensing, trademarks, etc. If I had chosen a name like 'ThinkGNU' it may have violated an FSF or other entities/persons trademark/copyright. While I don't recall the exact order of events I did email the FSF about getting permission to utilize the trademark/copyright. Unfortunately it seems that the correct email address to send such requests to goes directly to the bit bucket. I got no response.

While correct we have attended at least one conference without the GNU (I'm human, I forgot it) we've been to many other conferences with BOTH the GNU mascot and the penguin mascot in attendance.

It made little difference at the event your referring as we also always use Trisquel as the distribution on the laptops on display and talk about free software, and non-free software issues. At the most recent non-GNU/Linux and not freedom-oriented event we attended (with about 3000 people I believe) you can see the GNU mascot, one of the Trisquel case badges, on of the computers with a 'powered by GNU/Linux' case badge on it (white system, lower left), and the “working together for free software” mouse pads. If you check out the brochures seen on the table you'll also notice we're primarily talking about free software using words such as “GNU/Linux” and saying “built on GNU and Linux”. We're the 1st or 2nd most GNU-friendly and free software friendly table at every event. The only reason we're often the 2nd is because the FSF is nearly always in attendance and spouts lots of GNU-merchandise for sale.





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