I just want to clarify the comment on ThinkPenguin systems as there are several layers of reality to contend with as far as free software goes. There isn't a perfect solution right now anywhere. We're all using some non-free software. Some systems are better than others though as far as freedom goes and you have to make a decision where you threshold is. You can choose not to use any non-free software, but that probably means not using any technology at all.

Everything that can be done is being done as far as free software goes on the ThinkPenguin systems. Not everything can be free'd that said. That's the reality of it. You have to get the cooperation of other companies and if you can't your stuck. That's where things are right now. We're talking about billions of dollars if you want to start designing everything from scratch so it's just not going to happen that way.

What Gluglug did was utilize older laptops with fewer free software problems and then worked around the problems that existed. Great. Unfortunately it is a dead end and has some unfortunate side-effects both from a free software side and a performance side. But in either event this is the best option for a completely free system right now (or as close as it gets taking into account all options).

The future is uncertain, but there may be some hope for Gluglug-like laptop (ie less performance, etc), but designed off newer non-x86 tech (ie built off other technology more from the ground up, what Todd *should* have done if he had actually cared about free software).

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