I disagree, ubuntu may have spyware but they have less than, apple, microsoft, google, etc...

Also without ubuntu we would still be using debian as its base and that would not attract nearly as many people.

(debian is harder to install trust me!)

newcomers though will prefer an easy interface over a hard one.

but also, its not like you are locked into having ubuntu installed, crapple as you put it and micro$oft as you put it... (well forgetting microsoft for a moment due to it going the road of apple without any kind of security at ALL!)

Apple and microsoft are basicially the same now except windows 10 makes apple look good. (not by much i assure you just because malware destroys microsoft quicker.)

But i digressed a lot, ubuntu you can escape alot easier than microsoft and apple. so...

There is a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel even if you don't see it that way.

I personally applaud ubuntu for at least not blocking removing their operating system.

would i use it? No... but its at least two steps above the other proprietary systems...

MY point though is that ubuntu if you don't like it, get rid of it. apple or microsoft HAH out of luck! at least with windows 10 anyways which will soon be the only supported version... (that's gonna slowly kill them i hope.)

but yeah, ubuntu as an os doesn't deserve much trust but neither is it as bad as the other alternatives...

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