Surgeon David Gorski who blogs as 'Orac' on ScienceBlogs is hardly a neutral commentator (he is listed on my research page as a pro-vaccination source), nor is he any more of an expert on vaccination than any of the members of the IMCV. Gorski's style relies on scornful, patronising ad hominem, which is a shame, because if the logic of his arguments and the evidence he references were so rock solid, surely he could just use a neutral academic tone? I see you resort to the same kind of ad hominem (calling me an "idiot") and emotional blackmail typical of pro-vaccination commentators like Gorski, and shouting propaganda statements like VACCINES SAVE LIVES suggests you've never had a sceptical thought about the subject in your life, let along examined any of the evidence for yourself.

Anyone, this is totally off-topic, and I'm sorry I brought it up, because it's bringing out the worst in the normally friendly and open minded participants in this forum.

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