> That issue needs to be laid on the table and given a good in-depth look.

Ok, lay it. Let's look into it in the other thread.

> Yes, but we still need to shrink exposure as much as we can.

Well, you use Yahoo, I use Gmail... and so do many of our correspondents which makes switching the mail server an effort with questionable value. How does having a separate laptop for each task solve this?

> There is no perfect compromise.

Of course. The essence of compromise is imperfection (incompleteness).

> *expensive* baby in our arm that bites.

Not only that. The baby is infected and is infecting the other babies, including the favorite baby.

> Then what?

Then we stop talking about less important things and start healing the baby. Or should we rather stay silent? FSF and GNU have been explicitly notified that their "look no further" recommendation is misleading. I don't think it needs months to say with 2 sentences "Listen people, we made a mistake. Someone from the community found that IceCat has this flaw, we want to be honest - there it is".

> What would you expect? RMS publicly stating that IceCat is crap, that it is removed from GNU archives and endorsement list, that everyone should just quit using it and instead just use what the heck they want..? Dropping IceCat and adopting something else is very, *very* serious and expensive affair. And as I have said, FSF is not a small canoe that can change directions on short notice.

What do you mean when you say expensive? That someone has put money into IceCat development? How much (so that we can evaluate the expense)? Why is that info not public? I don't quite understand. IceCat is not developed by FSF. From one of the replies from the developer:

"The FSF does not develop IceCat (or any other software), the GNU developers do."

> We need to wait and see what comes eventually off of your warning RMS about IceCat. Just patience.

I don't need to wait, I need a clean browser - today. Not when someone is in the mood for it. I don't want to depend on anyone, dependency is not freedom. My first email is from 2017-12-14. I made my own mod of user.js and I know it doesn't take 2 months but a few hours. Expenses? - Zero. Babies dropped? - None. So why should one kill passion and replace it with patience? When one sees that the house is burning one doesn't sit and discuss - one acts instantly. That is real freedom, not the activism, the philosophies, the slide shows, selling gnu puppets and all that business.

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