Hi Fabien, Thanks for catching that error. I uploaded a revised version of the tutorial. Please let me know if you have additional questions. Best regards,
Diego Fabien Morice wrote: > Thank you, Diego > > I'm interresting by the case 2 : shading from far away objects, > overhangs ang wingwalls. > I think you have forgotten to describe connections between the type > 109 and the type 67 > I explain you : > You give me 3 connections > I'm agree with you for the 2 first but I don't know where have you > found the input " incidence angle of direct radiation" in type 67 > In more, I think there are more connections than 3 ! > > More far, you give me the same connections between (the type 109 and > the type 67) and (the type 67 and the type 34) > I suppose you have use Copy/Paste. > > Can you have a look ? > I'm interresting by details about connections between (the type 109 > and the type 67) > > (the type 34 and the type 56a) > > (the type 109 and the type 34) > > Thank you in advance. > > Thank you again because thanks to you I have discover a new type (57 = > unit conversion routine). > I suppose you use it to convert pressure [Pa] in [atm]. > Isn't it? > > > Fabien Morice. > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > De : Diego A. Arias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À : Fabien Morice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc : [email protected] > Envoyé le : Lundi, 19 Mars 2007, 22h21mn 45s > Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] Re : About Shading masks (type 67) and > Overhang and wingwalls shading (type 34) > > Dear Morice, > > I prepared a tutorial on how to connect Type67, 34 and 56. > Go to > http://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/downloads/tutorials_and_examples/connecting34_67.pdf > Please let me know if you have comments about the tutorial. > Best regards, > > Diego > > > Fabien Morice wrote: > > Thanks Diego > > But could you tell me more ? > > How can I connect the type 67 with the type 56a ? (Which output) > > And if I want tu use type 67, type 56a and type 34 ? > > Have you an example for me ? > > > > Fabien Morice > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > De : Diego A. Arias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > À : Fabien Morice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc : [email protected] > > Envoyé le : Vendredi, 9 Mars 2007, 17h17mn 11s > > Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] About Shading masks (type 67) and Overhang > > and wingwalls shading (type 34) > > > > Hi Fabien, > > > > You do not need to use Type34 in combination with Type67. Type 67 was > > created to avoid the problem that you found in the mailing list: having > > to use two instances of Type 68. My answer to Amelie was before Type67 > > was available. > > Best regards, > > > > Diego > > > > > > Fabien Morice wrote: > > > Dear TRNSYS users, I have some questions for you : > > > > > > 1°) I try to use the type 67 with the type 56a (Multizone > Building). > > > But, it seems to me that I *_must_* used the type 34 in > > > complement. > > > [Output 11 of type 34 (Fraction of solar shading) ---> Input > > > of type 56a (created by me to used in Input of External Shading > Factor)] > > > because the type 67 gives me 2 outputs (among 11) : > > > [Output 7 of type 67 (Fraction of beam visible on horizontal > > > for mask) ---> ? > > > [Output 9 of type 67 (Fraction of diffuse visible on > > > horizontal for mask) ---> ? > > > that I don't know used with the type 56a directly. > > > 2°) I have read the files of the forum and I try the solution > > > proposed by Diego (Wed Oct 26 2005) to Amelie Mariller > > > who recommend to use two type 68 (one horizontal and one > > > vertical) with each type 34. > > > So, I have created two files in ".dat" : > > > the first with a slope of 0° > > > and the second with a slope of 90°. > > > The two files dividing the same others informations. > > > But I have the message : Error "Unable to read mask file, > > > please check file syntax and format." when I launch the calculs. > > > > > > 3°) So, I use only one type 68 with one type 34 : > > > > > > [Output 3 of type 67 Shaded beam radiation for surface ---> > > > Input 5 of type 34 (Beam radiation on surface)] > > > [Output 10 of type 67 Shaded diffuse radiation on horizontal > > > for mask ---> Input 4 of type 34 (Horizontal diffuse radiation)] > > > [Output 11 of type 67 Shaded total radiation on horizontal for > > > mask ---> Input 3 of type 34 (Total horizontal radiation)] > > > > > > Parameter 1 of type 34 Upstream component mode = 1 and not 0 > > > > > > In more, I use two Equations : > > > > > > a) Equation 1 : > > > > > > Sky diffuse radiation on titled surface i (Output of > > > type 109) > > > + > > > Groung reflected diffuse radiation on titled surface i > > > (Output of type 109) > > > = > > > Diffuse radiation for opening (Input 6 of type 67) > > > > > > b) Equation 2 : > > > > > > Sky diffuse radiation on horizontal > > > + > > > Groung reflected diffuse radiation on horizontal > > > = > > > Diffuse radiation on horizontal (Input 4 of type 69b > > > and Input 4 of type 67) > > > > > > After simulation, I have controlled the five View factor > > > (Outputs 6,7,8,9,10 of type 34) by Online plotter (type 65d) > > > and I'm surprise because the sum is not equal to 1 ! > > > But if I change : > > > Parameter 1 of type 34 Upstream component mode = 0 and not 1 > > > the sum is correct. > > > > > > * Anyone knows what I should do? Thanks.* > > > ** > > > *Fabien Morice.* > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos > > > questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des > > > expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses > > > <http://fr.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42054/*http://fr.answers.yahoo.com>. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > TRNSYS-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://www.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users > > > > > > > > > -- > > Diego A. 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