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Hi Alex,
It looks like a compilation of different data that's already freely available,
that these guys are charging people for.
Do you have link where you can get the "Revolutioniz: Harness The Hidden Laws
Of The Universe" files without paying for them?
Carlos
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:21:27 +0100
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2
>
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> Hi people ,
> I just realized the power of TROM. It is a tool that has the ability
> tochange our belief system , either choosen or imposed by others.
> And according to Quantum Phisics , our mind through the DNA creates
> the reality we experience.And we change our DNA with our thoughts and
> emotions.
> A site worth to know is www.revolutioniz.com ,
> alex-
>
>
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> > 1. Re: Alan Walter (Mickel)
> > 2. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1 (alex martin)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:32:57 -0000
> > From: "Mickel" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]>
> > Message-ID: <3f5839e26aa740a59ceeca92a9e28...@everest>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi Ralph
> > Thanks for the information and websites have looked it over, stored
> > it and if it's ever needed it will be there.
> >
> > I am rather busy in the home at the moment, endless jobs to do it
> > seems but I intend to get down some serious timebreaking in a short
> > while, it won't take me long to see if it works for me or not.
> >
> > I am already discovering long forgotten incidents on the timetrack
> > and a slight improvement as to where I put something I have lost,
> > the remote control for the tv I manage to lose just about everyday,
> > several times.
> >
> > Anyway, I have noticed of late that when I forget where I have put
> > something I suddenly get a quick flash of a mental picture of where
> > I last put it, so it looks like the timebreaking process should be
> > ok for me.
> >
> > Just thought I would drop a quick win in there:)
> > Thanks
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ralph Clouse
> > To: The Resolution of Mind list
> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> >
> >
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> >
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > Been on this list for quite some time but have not posted
> > till now.
> >
> > As of late 2007, Alan Walter of knowlegism, had
> > incorporated the research of TROM into his technology.
> >
> > It was sad to hear he had passed. I was and am still am
> > hopeful to learn what his tech incorporation of TROM came up with.
> >
> > He had stated on ESMB that he had determined there were
> > some bugs in the application of TROM that he has resolved.
> >
> > He declared that his including the tech of TROM had finally
> > allowed him to complete his Games Matrix Tech.
> >
> > He was running a pilot program having highly trained
> > auditors Co-Audit to excellent results.
> >
> > Follow link to his write up regarding this :
> >
> > http://www.knowledgism.com/gamesmatrix/
> >
> > He does not in this link credit TROM or Dennis Stevens. But
> > he did previously on this ESMB thread.
> >
> > http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=2241
> >
> >
> > Alan has always seemed a bit full of hyperbole regarding
> > his dissertations, but you can get passed that, and he has valuable
> > tech contributions.
> >
> >
> > Personally I had read TROM years ago, I found it quite
> > interesting but was not able to pursue it at the time.
> >
> > Earlier this year, during R3X ( an advanced form of
> > Dianetics R3R ) auditing, I ended up at the bottom of a chain of
> > incidents at a Basic Basic first personal GPM on my track. It was
> > the "To Know package". This validated TROM Games Matrix theory to a
> > large extent.
> >
> > I am currently not using Standard TROM procedure, though I
> > will get to it in the near future. Since having accessed this
> > earliest track area, I am doing Solo auditing in this Basic area,
> > to uncover the events-Postulates-considerations-mechanics involved
> > in how it all came to be.
> >
> > I am basically scouting the area. The majority of the
> > charge having been handled.
> >
> > Finding out for myself as it were.
> >
> > It continues to validate TROM Games Matrix Theory.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph C.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Mickel <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mickel <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> > To: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]>, "The
> > Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
> >
> >
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> > Hi Everyone
> > I was doing some research on IFA this morning, an ancient
> > religion as I am interested in primal goals, polarities that sort
> > of thing when I came across this page:
> > http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/
> > _a000245-000256.htm
> > Message origionally by Ed Berwick.
> >
> > I met Alan some years ago at a meeting in London, a
> > memorable experience, I came out floating on air, it seemed.
> >
> > While I was studying Knowledgism I was able to achieve
> > many things I had not been able to before.
> >
> > My communication level improved considerably, I was able
> > to achieve accomplishments on a third Dynamic level I would never
> > had thought possible before that.
> >
> > I actually cleared up the area I live in from gangs/
> > trouble makers, went to meetings, contacted the right people and
> > got my photograph in the city newspaper.
> >
> > I still have many of his books, The Clean Slate procedure
> > is an excellent way of discovering MUs, confusions and to get a
> > very good understanding of a word.
> >
> > So sorry to hear of his passing away, he discovered some
> > very good tech, I always liked his mood drills and his SPIEPIR is
> > very usable for setting goals.
> >
> > SPIEPIR, Spirit, Perceive, Intend, Envision, Plan,
> > Implement, Result.
> >
> > Best
> > Mike
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:22:18 +0100
> > From: alex martin <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1
> > To: [email protected]
> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> >
> > hi everyone,
> > my experience with knowledgisme has been good.The theory Alan had
> > discovered is great.I had realizations reading his books.But I found
> > the limit in the fact that is a
> > processing that another person has to apply to you.Trom works
> > perfectly as solo processing,if you can't find a twin.
> > I don't understand the criticism on Trom,without showing a solution ,
> > after you have criticized it.
> > Knowledge is a process of continuing expansion and it never stops.I
> > am thankful to Alan for his work.I am thankful to Dennis for his work
> > too.
> > We create rhe world we live in , consciously or unconsciously.And we
> > clear inner obstructions the outside world changes.
> > So you have to use tools to process yourself on solo , or you have
> > someone else to run a processing on you.
> > Dennis said on one of his tapes that he is sorry for all the
> > processors of the world, Trom is going to put them out of busisness !
> > If everyone play it on his own mind.
> > The next challenge for Trom will be the next future, will it survive
> > the mind of the common people, or people will make it vanish ?
> > It would be a good thing to apply Trom by oneself and have the chance
> > to receive Knowledgisme process in a separate time.
> > You are training your mind , so the more different exercises you make
> > the more able is your mind.
> > As Alan says the formula to be a champion is study and practice,
> > study and practice , study and practice till you get mastery.
> > The Life Force Particles as described by Alan , are the raw material
> > on which we work with Trom.We recover life force particles , trapped
> > in upset or incident of the past.
> > Life force particles are consciousness and energy, that is the only
> > way to explain how they can drammatize an incident of the pat.Because
> > we assigned and importance to
> > that incident of the past , they learned from that to duplicate it
> > exactly.
> > These are my realization , reading both Dennis and Alan.
> > The job left to us is to discover how far we will go applying all
> > this theory.
> > good work
> > alex.
> >
> > Il giorno 01/dic/09, alle ore 13:00, [email protected] ha
> > scritto:
> >
> >> Send Trom mailing list submissions to
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..."
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. Alan Walter (Mickel)
> >> 2. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 (Leo Swart)
> >> 3. Re: Alan Walter (Ralph Clouse)
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:23:23 -0000
> >> From: "Mickel" <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> >> To: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]>, "The Resolution of
> >> Mind list" <[email protected]>
> >> Message-ID: <0a81a8928f474899bd6ac74d7eb9b...@everest>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone
> >> I was doing some research on IFA this morning, an ancient religion
> >> as I am interested in primal goals, polarities that sort of thing
> >> when I came across this page:
> >> http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000245-000256.htm
> >> Message origionally by Ed Berwick.
> >>
> >> I met Alan some years ago at a meeting in London, a memorable
> >> experience, I came out floating on air, it seemed.
> >>
> >> While I was studying Knowledgism I was able to achieve many things
> >> I had not been able to before.
> >>
> >> My communication level improved considerably, I was able to achieve
> >> accomplishments on a third Dynamic level I would never had thought
> >> possible before that.
> >>
> >> I actually cleared up the area I live in from gangs/trouble makers,
> >> went to meetings, contacted the right people and got my photograph
> >> in the city newspaper.
> >>
> >> I still have many of his books, The Clean Slate procedure is an
> >> excellent way of discovering MUs, confusions and to get a very good
> >> understanding of a word.
> >>
> >> So sorry to hear of his passing away, he discovered some very good
> >> tech, I always liked his mood drills and his SPIEPIR is very usable
> >> for setting goals.
> >>
> >> SPIEPIR, Spirit, Perceive, Intend, Envision, Plan, Implement, Result.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Mike
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> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:29:27 +1300
> >> From: "Leo Swart" <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Message-ID: <8e97e9ec856d486787733bec9b47a...@dx2200pc>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> I suggest one should be a tad wary of complexifying TROM. Just run
> >> in its
> >> simple form will bring up all of these "chains" and "earlier
> >> similars"
> >> during the normal running of it. To go deliberately focussing on
> >> certain
> >> types of incident within the existing pattern of postulates is
> >> adventurous
> >> and unnecessary.
> >>
> >> leon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:28:15 -0800 (PST)
> >> From: Ralph Clouse <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> >> To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>
> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone
> >>
> >> Been on this list for quite some time but have not posted till now.
> >>
> >> As of late 2007, Alan Walter of knowlegism, had incorporated the
> >> research of TROM into his technology.
> >>
> >> It was sad to hear he had passed. I was and am still am hopeful to
> >> learn what his tech incorporation of TROM came up with.
> >>
> >> He had stated on ESMB that he had determined there were some bugs
> >> in the application of TROM that he has resolved.
> >>
> >> He declared that his including the tech of TROM had finally allowed
> >> him to complete his Games Matrix Tech.
> >>
> >> He was running a pilot program having highly trained auditors Co-
> >> Audit to excellent results.
> >>
> >> Follow link to his write up regarding this :
> >>
> >> http://www.knowledgism.com/gamesmatrix/?
> >>
> >> He does not in this link credit TROM or Dennis Stevens. But he did
> >> previously on this ESMB thread.
> >>
> >> http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=2241
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan has always seemed a bit full of hyperbole regarding his
> >> dissertations, but you can get passed that, and he has valuable
> >> tech contributions.
> >>
> >>
> >> Personally I had read TROM years ago, I found it quite interesting
> >> but was not able to pursue it at the time.
> >>
> >> Earlier this year, during R3X ( an advanced form of Dianetics R3R )
> >> auditing, I ended up at the bottom of a chain of incidents at a
> >> Basic Basic first personal GPM on my track. It was the "To Know
> >> package". This validated TROM Games Matrix theory to a large extent.
> >>
> >> I am currently not using Standard TROM procedure, though I will get
> >> to it in the near future. Since having accessed this earliest track
> >> area, I am doing Solo auditing in this Basic area, to uncover the
> >> events-Postulates-considerations-mechanics involved in how it all
> >> came to be.
> >>
> >> I am basically scouting the area. The majority of the charge having
> >> been handled.
> >>
> >> Finding out for myself as it were.
> >>
> >> It continues to validate TROM Games Matrix Theory.??
> >>
> >>
> >> ?
> >> Ralph C.??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Mickel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Mickel <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> >> To: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]>, "The Resolution of
> >> Mind list" <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
> >>
> >> *************
> >> The following message is relayed to you by? [email protected]
> >> ************
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone
> >> I was doing some research on IFA this morning, an
> >> ancient religion as I am interested in primal goals, polarities
> >> that sort of
> >> thing when I came across this page:
> >> http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000245-000256.htm
> >> Message origionally by Ed Berwick.
> >> ?
> >> I met Alan some years ago at a meeting in London, a
> >> memorable experience, I came out floating on air, it seemed.
> >> ?
> >> While I was studying Knowledgism I was able to
> >> achieve many things I had not been able to before.
> >> ?
> >> My communication level improved considerably, I was
> >> able to achieve accomplishments on a third Dynamic level I would
> >> never had
> >> thought possible before that.
> >> ?
> >> I actually cleared up the area I live in from
> >> gangs/trouble makers, went to meetings, contacted the right people
> >> and got my
> >> photograph in the city newspaper.
> >> ?
> >> I still have many of his books, The Clean Slate
> >> procedure is an excellent way of discovering MUs, confusions and to
> >> get a very
> >> good understanding of a word.
> >> ?
> >> So sorry to hear of his passing away, he discovered
> >> some very good tech, I always liked his mood drills and his SPIEPIR
> >> is very
> >> usable for setting goals.
> >> ?
> >> SPIEPIR, Spirit, Perceive, Intend, Envision, Plan,
> >> Implement, Result.
> >> ?
> >> Best
> >> Mike
> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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