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Hi Pete 
Just a few things concerning meditation that are real to me.
The first thing that put me on to meditation although at that time I didn't 
know what meditation was, had never heard of it was L Ron Hubbard.
There is a process in one of the early PABs (Professional Auditor's Bulletins) 
called Take Ten Minutes of Nothing.
I can look up the details if anyone wants the exact reference for this, it's on 
another harddrive at the moment.

At that time I had not been long in Scientology (this is about 30 years ago) 
and due to the fact that I had developed huge resistances to various things in 
life I suffered from things like really bad headaches that wiped me out for the 
day, heavy mental masses, that sort of thing.
One night after a days work, I had not joined Staff then I was lying there with 
huge pressures on and around my head so I started to do this process.
After about 15 minutes something really strange happened, at one point the 
pressure and masses suddenly increased to the point where I couldn't take any 
more and then in an instant vanished, the whole lot.

I am now in a state where I am not thinking in words, no mind thoughts, it is 
hard to describe but as far as I can understand it appears to be a spiritual 
intention and then visual image, a full 3D scene.

Space extends out forever, into infinity, huge space,(this is hard to explain, 
how it's done) but whatever I visualise comes instantly into being.

There is this sense of total freedom, I am not contained by any mind thought or 
any limitations.

The problem is, as soon as I start to analyse  anything about this phenomena 
the thinking mind comes into play and the state is lost.

I believe most if not all children have this ability but lose it due to all the 
social/religious and God knows what else is put into their minds and instead of 
just being their natural selves they have all this mind junk imposed around 
them.

I know, because I still remember I used to have that ability and still have but 
only if I calm the thinking mind.

I believe anyone can do this and will then have a different viewpoint about 
life, a person can certainly, if not at once, begin to see that they are more 
than just a body or brain, it is quite observable because a person can see that 
they are no longer fixed in the constraints of what is called a normal human 
being, there is far more beyond what the mind can think up or about but a 
person needs somehow to get out of the mind structure to see it.

For me the major problem was this, these images, pictures can be very 
frightening, overpowering and a young person has no knowledge or understanding 
of what many of these pictures are and so they shove up screens of blackness to 
hide them unfortunately the child is still the effect of them even though they 
can no longer see them.

I have spoken to other spiritually minded people about this and I have had a 
few replies that they did exactly what I did, shut them off so that you don't 
have to look at them again.

Mike

  You are describing moving your viewpoint up the tone scale to the causal 
band. From this viewpoint you are not involved in games conditions or emotional 
or efforting reactions to things going on. I am only able to obtain that state 
with much meditation and can't hold it for long.

  You are already experiencing "Nirvana" now you could work on making happen at 
will.  

  Keep on TROMing.

  Pete
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mickel 
    To: Pete McLaughlin ; The Resolution of Mind list 
    Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:16 PM
    Subject: Re: [TROM1] what else after Trom?


    Hi Pete
    Thanks for info, I did a search for the expanded tone scale but I must have 
got the COS one.

    I found this one here:
    http://knowledgesuccess.com/wiki4/uploads/toneScales.html
    is that the one.

    However, for my level of understanding now what I see in the COS tone scale:

    Serenity of Beingness
    Postulates
    Games
    Action.
    clears up a few things for me.

    I don't want to go too much into this but I have this thing that happens to 
me  and I have had the exact same experience again and again since I first 
became aware in this body and I will explain it this way.

    I am going along in a normal manner into the physical universe games, 
agreements, mind stuff and all that, I think you know what I mean, when 
something rather odd happens, it's not odd really.

    It's like a curtain lifts, all the mind stuff drops away, everything, all 
there is life itself, there are no mind questions, there is nowhere to go other 
than where I am now.
    It is a perfect synchronicity with everything in the P.U. it is completely 
effortless, it's almost like the body moves by itself.
    It is a crystal, clear clarity, there is no such thing as death, a question 
such as do I reincarnate is a really stupid question because I am here always, 
do you see what I am trying to say, these words I use to try and describe it 
are really completely useless, they point to something my mind cannot explain 
properly.

    It's wonderful, all fear, worry, all that mind stuff does not exist, Who am 
I really, I am a big guy pretending to be a little guy.

    I will just add this, that remark at the end of my last message about 
playing a game with drugs, sex and rock and roll was just one of those stupid 
remarks I sometimes make, I do not drink alcohol or use street drugs and I have 
never used those sort of mind altering drugs that so many use today.

    When I write up a particular experience I have had that is the truth as I 
see it, to mislead someone when describing what we call spiritual experiences 
is a major overt, don't ask me why, it's something built in to me, to lie or 
make something up may lead someone else who is into spiritual understanding 
onto the wrong path, to lie is the the biggest overt I could commit.
    Best
    Mike




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