************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Hi everyone,
I've been following this brief discussion about the planet dying, and I found it rather amusing. :-) And so I thought I'd jump into this delightful games condition and add my two cents. :-) There's nothing wrong with the planet. The planet's NOT dying. And even if it were, it would have nothing to do with us humans or our behaviour towards it. I don't know whether what Pete said (about the global ice coverage) is true - I haven't researched that particular claim. But I have done some research on climate change in the past, and there has been something similar to what Pete said (which I'll get to in a minute). It is true that the output of the sun varies. It is true that there have been numerous climatic changes in the past of this planet, all throughout the history of life on this planet and beyond. The global temperature during most of the reign of the dinosaurs has been a lot higher than it is today, along with the level of CO2. (btw, CO2 as the culprit for climate change is a sham in my opinion. I mean, it's a natural byproduct of live - we breathe it out, trees use it to synthesise oxygen. CO2 as a climate killer? Please!) Today it is a lot cooler than during the times of the dinosaurs. It is true that it was pretty warm in England in medieval times - so warm that they were growing wine here, there were lots and lots of vinyards here in the UK. And it is also true that between the 1400-1800 it was a lot colder than today. The mighty river Thames was completely frozen over back then, with the ice being 10 inches thick. I used to live in London - the Thames is a big f*&%ing river, mighty impressive. It's a force of nature. It would take a LOT to get that thing to freeze over. Yet people would walk on the Thames, children would play there, there would be so-called frost fairs held on the river. Today we're just entering yet another warming period in this yo-yoing of climate change over the centuries and millenia, and, personally, I can't wait to try English wine someday (though I doubt it would match Australian or French wines). It is also true that there have been quite a few mass extinction events on this planet, during which a lot or, in some cases, almost ALL of life on this planet was wiped out. 250 million years ago, for instance, the Permian-Triassic mass extinction wiped out over 90% of all the species on this planet. Pause for a moment and really ponder this, really let this sink it. Over 90% of species gone. And today we worry about bloody polar bears. It's hilarious. Then we had the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction 65 million years ago, when the dinosaurs were wiped out. And several more mass extinctions in between. Yet, in spite of all this the planet is still here, and so is life. It is an up and down - nothing to be concerned about. The influence the planet exerts on itself cannot be compared with the influence we exert on it. A single large volcanic eruption this year can change the average temperate for the next two to three years. Such an eruption will blow unimaginable amounts of climate changing sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere - we humans couldn't manage to match that even if we tried. Trust me, we humans are small fish when it comes to climate change and catastrophe. All this hype about global warming, about climate change, don't buy into it. At least fully research it first before believing the mass media reports. Study up on geological periods, on history of life on this planet, on natural catastrophies in the very distant past. Studying about the past puts things in perspective. I used to worry about the climate, but not anymore. I suspect that this whole climate change hype has more to do with geopolitical reasons rather than with actual science and the actual state of the planet. And I'm not saying all this because I'm a conservative politically (I'm not). They (the convervatives in the US) say it too - that the climate change hype is a sham -, albeit for different reasons (they don't want stringent emission restrictions to mess with their economy). There's no reason to get into a "heated" discussion on the subject, so "chill". (pun intended, haha) I'll leave you with an entertaining (and enlightening) video clip on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw Best, Harry > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:22:44 -0700 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hi Leon > I haven't done the research necessary to prove "snow ball earth" is > true > or not. I am reporting what science currently believes has happened in > the > past. > > Our sun is a variable star as we are new seeing with the polar ice > melting > on earth and mars simultaneously. It is possible it was weaker in the > past. > Also our earth orbit is variable from an ellipse to a circle, which > changes > the amount of energy received from the sun. > > The orbits of all the planets and moons vary. The moon is currently > receding from the earth at the rate of 1/4 inch a year if I recall the > figure correctly and the earths mass is increasing as debris from space > is > added to it which may move it closer to the sun. > Strikes by large asteroids can increase or decrease the orbital velocity > of > the earth depending on where they strike the surface. Bottom line is > that > in the past conditions were different than at present but life has > managed > to persist here. > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom ____________________________________________________________ Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
