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Il giorno 24/giu/10, alle ore 06:41, [email protected] ha scritto: > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 (Leo Swart) > 2. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 (Pete McLaughlin) > 3. RE This Planet (Colleen Peltomaa) > 4. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 (Happy Harry) > 5. r, factor, this planet is a spiritual being with a body (Slim) > 6. Re: r, factor, this planet is a spiritual being with a body > (Pete McLaughlin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:56:44 +1200 > From: "Leo Swart" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <00470a4b6c2a4baca7cc18a05238d...@dx2200pc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > "At various points in geologic time the planet has been frozen from > pole to > equator," > > > I don't think this has ever happened because it is a non-reversible > situation. Once it happens more heat is reflected from earth than is > absorbed and so it is a point of no return. The puzzle is why this > has > never yet happened. > > > Leon > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:22:44 -0700 > From: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 > To: <[email protected]>, "The Resolution of Mind list" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi Leon > I haven't done the research necessary to prove "snow ball earth" > is true > or not. I am reporting what science currently believes has > happened in the > past. > > Our sun is a variable star as we are new seeing with the polar ice > melting > on earth and mars simultaneously. It is possible it was weaker in > the past. > Also our earth orbit is variable from an ellipse to a circle, which > changes > the amount of energy received from the sun. > > The orbits of all the planets and moons vary. The moon is currently > receding from the earth at the rate of 1/4 inch a year if I recall the > figure correctly and the earths mass is increasing as debris from > space is > added to it which may move it closer to the sun. > Strikes by large asteroids can increase or decrease the orbital > velocity of > the earth depending on where they strike the surface. Bottom line > is that > in the past conditions were different than at present but life has > managed > to persist here. > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:29:11 -0400 > From: Colleen Peltomaa <[email protected]> > Subject: [TROM1] RE This Planet > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hello Pete, > > That is very good data, thank you, and, yes, I see and agree that our > viewpoints expand and expand as we reduce charge. On my clearing > path, > especially in the beginning, I had a new expanded viewpoint > dramatization > every week, lol! For example, I remember the week I rejoined and then > subsequently resigned my commission from the Galac (Con-?) > Federation. That > was a real "hi and bye" "love affair", LOL. But I had moved beyond > that all > within that week of doing my clearing work. Just an example. > > Re the BP Oil Spill I went and took a thetan type look and and I > saw what > was being done about it -- pretty routine programs running to > handle things > like this. I also saw myself as a thetan with huge thetan hands > reaching > out and making some movements to expedite and support the work of the > entities tasked to handle such occurrences. The big picture I got > was that > all things will work together for good, if one takes the big picture. > > One of my PCs saw in his session that there are various "nefarious" > methods > employed to keep us bonded to this planet and to the beings on this > planet. > Just thought I should throw that out as a possible datum to be > looked at. > > cheers! > Colleen > > > -- > *?) ? > .?? .?*?) .?*?. * > (?.???Colleen*.?*? ? > .?? .??? ??* <> ) > (?.?* (?.?*??`?.** > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/ > 20100623/7426b73d/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:59:27 -0800 > From: Happy Harry <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 > To: [email protected], The Resolution of Mind list > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi everyone, > > I've been following this brief discussion about the planet dying, > and I found it rather amusing. :-) > And so I thought I'd jump into this delightful games condition and > add my two cents. :-) > > There's nothing wrong with the planet. The planet's NOT dying. And > even if it were, it would have nothing to do with us humans or our > behaviour towards it. > > I don't know whether what Pete said (about the global ice coverage) > is true - I haven't researched that particular claim. But I have > done some research on climate change in the past, and there has > been something similar to what Pete said (which I'll get to in a > minute). > > It is true that the output of the sun varies. > > It is true that there have been numerous climatic changes in the > past of this planet, all throughout the history of life on this > planet and beyond. The global temperature during most of the reign > of the dinosaurs has been a lot higher than it is today, along with > the level of CO2. (btw, CO2 as the culprit for climate change is a > sham in my opinion. I mean, it's a natural byproduct of live - we > breathe it out, trees use it to synthesise oxygen. CO2 as a climate > killer? Please!) > Today it is a lot cooler than during the times of the dinosaurs. > > It is true that it was pretty warm in England in medieval times - > so warm that they were growing wine here, there were lots and lots > of vinyards here in the UK. And it is also true that between the > 1400-1800 it was a lot colder than today. The mighty river Thames > was completely frozen over back then, with the ice being 10 inches > thick. I used to live in London - the Thames is a big f*&%ing > river, mighty impressive. It's a force of nature. It would take a > LOT to get that thing to freeze over. Yet people would walk on the > Thames, children would play there, there would be so-called frost > fairs held on the river. > Today we're just entering yet another warming period in this yo- > yoing of climate change over the centuries and millenia, and, > personally, I can't wait to try English wine someday (though I > doubt it would match Australian or French wines). > > It is also true that there have been quite a few mass extinction > events on this planet, during which a lot or, in some cases, almost > ALL of life on this planet was wiped out. 250 million years ago, > for instance, the Permian-Triassic mass extinction wiped out over > 90% of all the species on this planet. Pause for a moment and > really ponder this, really let this sink it. Over 90% of species > gone. And today we worry about bloody polar bears. It's hilarious. > Then we had the Cretaceous?Tertiary extinction 65 million years > ago, when the dinosaurs were wiped out. And several more mass > extinctions in between. > > Yet, in spite of all this the planet is still here, and so is life. > It is an up and down - nothing to be concerned about. The influence > the planet exerts on itself cannot be compared with the influence > we exert on it. A single large volcanic eruption this year can > change the average temperate for the next two to three years. Such > an eruption will blow unimaginable amounts of climate changing > sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere - we humans couldn't manage to > match that even if we tried. Trust me, we humans are small fish > when it comes to climate change and catastrophe. > > All this hype about global warming, about climate change, don't buy > into it. At least fully research it first before believing the mass > media reports. Study up on geological periods, on history of life > on this planet, on natural catastrophies in the very distant past. > Studying about the past puts things in perspective. I used to worry > about the climate, but not anymore. I suspect that this whole > climate change hype has more to do with geopolitical reasons rather > than with actual science and the actual state of the planet. > > And I'm not saying all this because I'm a conservative politically > (I'm not). They (the convervatives in the US) say it too - that the > climate change hype is a sham -, albeit for different reasons (they > don't want stringent emission restrictions to mess with their > economy). > > There's no reason to get into a "heated" discussion on the subject, > so "chill". (pun intended, haha) > > I'll leave you with an entertaining (and enlightening) video clip > on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw > > Best, > > Harry > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:22:44 -0700 >> To: [email protected], [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 7 >> >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> Hi Leon >> I haven't done the research necessary to prove "snow ball earth" is >> true >> or not. I am reporting what science currently believes has >> happened in >> the >> past. >> >> Our sun is a variable star as we are new seeing with the polar ice >> melting >> on earth and mars simultaneously. It is possible it was weaker in >> the >> past. >> Also our earth orbit is variable from an ellipse to a circle, which >> changes >> the amount of energy received from the sun. >> >> The orbits of all the planets and moons vary. The moon is currently >> receding from the earth at the rate of 1/4 inch a year if I recall >> the >> figure correctly and the earths mass is increasing as debris from >> space >> is >> added to it which may move it closer to the sun. >> Strikes by large asteroids can increase or decrease the orbital >> velocity >> of >> the earth depending on where they strike the surface. Bottom line is >> that >> in the past conditions were different than at present but life has >> managed >> to persist here. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > ____________________________________________________________ > Publish your photos in seconds for FREE > TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:36 -0700 > From: Slim <[email protected]> > Subject: [TROM1] r, factor, this planet is a spiritual being with a > body > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Trom list members, > > > when we die , or our body that is , we leave our body and we do not > return > to it again > > when the planet dies, or its body that is , it leaves its body and > it does > not return again . > > When LRH and DHS refer to clearing the planet , that's what they > mean . > > Step back and take a look . > > be three million feet back from the planet for a moment > > look at the differences and similarities > > the planet has warm red blood ( lava ) > the planet has water with a fixed percentage of salinity ( not > unlike our > own percentage as humans forms ) > it has oils and gas . ( if you are not up to seeing this in > humans , this > post is not for you ) > it has air , and so do we. > it has emotions of thunder, rain, wind , earthquakes, etc. that it > uses to > express itself > it has a normal temperature just like we do > it can run a fever just like we can > the planet has life forms on her body and so do we in the form of > microscopic life forms > > it you were to view this planet from the moon you wouldn't see any > life > forms on her body but we are here none the less. > > Ive been in very good spiritual communication with this planet and > she is > not doing well , She is ready to call it quits and when she goes > all of the > life form so her body will not survive. > > Since writting this message she has told me she is pissed and that > i am > using her when she knows very well about me basic purpose to change > the > basic law that governs this universe. > > now ask yourself this . what is my true purpose for posting this > message . > If you are clear, the true answer will come to you like a read on an > e-meter. > > Like the Chinese stirring their rice pots in china, just because > you do not > perceive them doing so , it does not mean they are not doing it. > > This may obviously be well beyond your ability to know, > > Makes no difference to me > > Im just getting started too. Pete, Its going to get allot heavier > before it > gets any lighter . > > Sure, this planet will die some day just like our bodies die but > she is too > young to die , just like a new born with so much life in her future > to live > still . > > I will not stand by and see her die at the hands of human > destruction no > more than you would stand by and allow a new born baby be eaten by > insects . > > I love all life , always have and always will , even humans . But I > will not > stand by a watch a friend be killed by the destructive nature of > human being > . > > There will be many who oppose me as I restore this planet , theres > always a > negative to the positive . Which pole position will you be on ? > > Which goal will you complement or oppose, the life goal or the none > life > goal.? > > That's your call > > I will not prevent nor force you to choose. > > What you say and do will demonstrate your position . > > Package delivered , > > Have a nice day : ) > > Slim > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hB1Q3-0EIY > > PS > > I will be changing the basic law that governs this universe as my > primary > goal , Im just tending to this planet as a jr goal > > > One last thing > > Can you put my [email protected] email address on > moderator mode until I fix the google group site ? Its spinning out of > control the way the links are tied to each other. > > Thanks again , Pete. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.theresolutionofmind.org > http://trom.freewebspace.com/corkboard/index.html > > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/ > 20100623/9ef64e88/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:41:41 -0700 > From: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] r, factor, this planet is a spiritual being with > a body > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Slim > > Again I say "Lighten Up". > > > The earth is a ball of iron and rock and water weighing > 6,585,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons that has been spinning around > the sun for > 5 billion years and will continue to do so for another 5 billion > years till > the sun turns into a red giant and swallows it up. > > > > > > Life is a bit of pond scum on the surface of this ball. What man > can do > ,good or bad, will make absolutely no difference to the iron rock > and water > of this planet. If man manages to pollute the surface of the > planet so man > can no longer live here then other life forms will carry on and new > ones > will evolve that can survive in the new conditions. > > > > > > Life, mother earth, Gia etc. don't give a hoot about the minor > changes on > the surface of this planet. Life will carry on regardless. Gia > won't be > pissed if man makes the planet uninhabitable for men. Most of the > mass of > living matter on the planet is not human beings. > > > > > > So again, Lighten up. > > > The important thing is to reduce the importance of games including > the blame > game for who is destroying what. Also quit looking for Evil beings > with > Evil Purposes like the illuminati, bankers, corporations, > governments to put > up like boogey men that scare children. These are all very low toned > activities > > > The only thing you see wrong in the world around you is what > resonates with > the games in your own mind. If you see something upsetting "out > there" then > immediately timebreak your mind content that has been > restimulated. The > problem "out there" will fade away to unimportance. > > > Make timebreaking an all day every day activity till we quit > dramatizing the > mind games then move on to what ever interests you next. > > > > > > Keep on TROMing > > > > > PS. I put the resolution of mind googel group address on moderate. > Do keep > up your originations to the list. 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