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> Send Trom mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. The wrong "why" (LJ) > 2. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 73, Issue 34 (LJ) > 3. Re: The wrong "why" Leo) > > Hi Eljay Your post makes very much sense too me. I had similar reflections on not wanting to play anymore. Leo Faulhaber > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:29:33 +0200 > From: LJ <[email protected]> > Subject: [TROM1] The wrong "why" > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Before I start: Hiya Slim, why not use a human voice as the narrator on > youtube? The narrative is great but the electronic voice is jarring....:( > > Some more games playing insights: > > Why am I doing TROM? > > To win or not lose or just to be free from the compulsion to play games? > > The "why" behind "not losing" is the avoidance of pain. It is a 'not know". > I hate losing. I don't want to experience the pain of loss so I must win. > This is a negative motivation and requires lots of theta because I am > trying > to prevent something from happening i.e experiencing a loss so I must > compulsively win or try to keep winning at whatever game it is I am playing > along the dynamics. > > The "why" behind "winning" is the seeking of pleasure "the thrill of > winning". It is a "know". I want to experince the joy of winning. It is > higher upscale than hating to lose but ultimately becomes addictive and an > entrapment unless it is a voluntary game from which I exit on my own terms > and on my own steam being fully cognitive of the games conditions, the > players and my role in the game. > > The "why" beind seeking freedom is to understand how addictive games play > can become and thus we seek freedom from the compulsion to play games. We > wish to be in a NO GAMES state from which we choose to PLAY GAMES with full > awareness and then to withdraw whenever we want without any compulsion to > continue. There is another NO GAMES state lower down the scale where > someone > has moved through to NOT WANTING to play anymore because of the series of > losses that the being has experienced. The being is overwhelmed and in > apathy about playing and therefore avoids the game much like a painful > situation. Pretty much the CDEI scale from becoming curious about games to > being inhibited about games to no games to the game has destroyed me which > is of course the wrong item... > > Just a couple of thoughts on my journey... > Eljay > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. hi. p--x (Lucky Galvan) > > 2. hi. 6--t (Lucky Galvan) > > 3. Re: hi. 6--t (Janet s) > > 4. revised video (Slim .) > > 5. Re: hi. 6--t (Happy Harry) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:32:35 +0800 > > From: Lucky Galvan <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TROM1] hi. p--x > > To: [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > hi! > > I find a good website? www.icbcshopp.info > > On this website ,you can find many new and origianl electronic > > products .Now they are holding sales promotion activity, all the > > product are sold at a > > low cost and good quality ,and the delivery is on time . > > It is a good chance that you should not lose. > > If you need some, visit this website . > > Let us enjoy the happiness of shopping. > > Greetings! )--@ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:38:09 +0800 > > From: Lucky Galvan <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TROM1] hi. 6--t > > To: [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > hi! > > I find a good website? www.icbcshopp.info > > On this website ,you can find many new and origianl electronic > > products .Now they are holding sales promotion activity, all the > > product are sold at a > > low cost and good quality ,and the delivery is on time . > > It is a good chance that you should not lose. > > If you need some, visit this website . > > Let us enjoy the happiness of shopping. > > Greetings! a--i > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:15:15 -0400 > > From: "Janet s" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] hi. 6--t > > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Why are we getting advertisements for electronics on this list? This > would > > seem a bit off topic. > > > > Janet > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Lucky Galvan" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:38 AM > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TROM1] hi. 6--t > > > > > ************* > > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > > ************ > > > hi! > > > I find a good website? www.icbcshopp.info > > > On this website ,you can find many new and origianl electronic > > > products .Now they are holding sales promotion activity, all the > > > product are sold at a > > > low cost and good quality ,and the delivery is on time . > > > It is a good chance that you should not lose. > > > If you need some, visit this website . > > > Let us enjoy the happiness of shopping. > > > Greetings! a--i > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Trom mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:28:39 -0700 > > From: "Slim ." <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TROM1] revised video > > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > i asked some others at a shopping mall to listen to the youtube video I > > created to bring awareness to this planet . > > > > Made a few changes and then re-recorded the video . Added a few things > and > > took some others out . > > > > Check it out and let me know what you think about it . > > > > Life is beautiful , in any form . The destructive forces this planet is > > enduring are very obvious and are much too much for her to resolve on her > > own . She is a very powerful being but she grows old like we do and will > > soon lose to the forces that are eating away at her. This is not right . > No > > life form has the right to destroy another for this purpose. This planet > > was > > not created to feed on for her oils , gas, sea life, rain forests and > > metals > > this way . > > > > heres the link > > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Slim42ndstreet > > > > have a nice day : ) > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20100810/88821888/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:14:01 -0800 > > From: Happy Harry <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] hi. 6--t > > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Are you kidding?! Do you have any idea how hard it is these days to find > > decent discounted electronics?! ;-) > > > > Seriously though, I think it's just spam and Pete will take care of it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:15:15 -0400 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] hi. 6--t > > > > > > ************* > > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > > ************ > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > > > Why are we getting advertisements for electronics on this list? This > > > would > > > seem a bit off topic. > > > > > > Janet > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From: "Lucky Galvan" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:38 AM > > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > > > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [TROM1] hi. 6--t > > > > > >> ************* > > >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > >> ************ > > >> hi! > > >> I find a good website? www.icbcshopp.info > > >> On this website ,you can find many new and origianl electronic > > >> products .Now they are holding sales promotion activity, all the > > >> product are sold at a > > >> low cost and good quality ,and the delivery is on time . > > >> It is a good chance that you should not lose. > > >> If you need some, visit this website . > > >> Let us enjoy the happiness of shopping. > > >> Greetings! a--i > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Trom mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Trom mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Send your photos by email in seconds... > > TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3 > > Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social > networks. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 73, Issue 30 > > ************************************ > > > > > > -- > Llewellin RG Jegels > Founder of New Adventure Publishing > "Turning Dreams into Reality" > Cell:0715689338 > Fax:0865408636 > email: [email protected] > web: www.newadventurepublishing.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20100811/5a1e5c8e/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:30:51 +0200 > From: LJ <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 73, Issue 34 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yeah Slim your trailblazing wins have been a great encouragement. Thanks > for > sharing them. It seems that the wins Dennis spoke about that awaits us are > there to be had! > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: 2012 Dec 21. (Martin Foster) > > 2. RE 2012 (Colleen Peltomaa) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:53:37 +0200 > > From: Martin Foster <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TROM1] 2012 Dec 21. > > To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]>, The > > Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hi Slim - Very well done and thank you for sharing those tremendous wins. > > > > Love, > > > > Martin > > > > At 12/08/2010 Thursday 10:54, Slim wrote: > > >************* > > >The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > >************ > > >Time breaking > > > > > >After a while and with some hours of practice, it's possible to hold > > >up objects from multiple past scenes simultaneously for comparison. > > >Its done while exterior in present time . Its very cool but not very > > >effective when compared to the exercises of level five. > > > > > >Its so true . Until you do level five , you just have no way to > > >know the true significance of the level. Each one of the 16 levels > > >are in there own right, like an OT level. When you complete one of > > >the 16 levels , it clears a lost ability for that level for good . > > >You can feel it . It's gone and its not just a release , it's gone > > >for good . You certainly feel the release but you also feel the > > >vanishment of the mass that was responsible, so to speak, for the lost > > ability. > > > > > >When i first started time breaking the mass from past scenes on > > >level three and four, they were very small but took some attention > > >and determination to time break it out. As i go down the postulate > > >failure cycle chart , the masses are getting bigger . This last one > > >, as i mentioned , was incredible in size and thee most difficult to > > >reduce. I worked on what was left of it today for the forth time as > > >well as some other stuff that came up . Mopped it all up nicely . > > > > > >I'll stay on the level 7a or b which ever it is until nothing comes > > >to view after a couple days of trying and then move down to the next > > level. > > > > > >It's just like Dennis says it would be . My power of postulate is > > >returning and in turn , my ability to bring even more into the > > >present for time breaking is returning as a result. > > > > > >This is why making sure you have levels two three and four completed > > >and you've mastered the ability to time break . You'll be brining > > >some huge chucks of mass to the present for time breaking and if > > >your ability to time break has not been mastered, you'll just be > > >bring hell to the breakfast table and your life will * be * a living > > >hell so to speak . It will literally screw your driver. > > > > > >So be very certain you have mastered time breaking and RI . > > >Otherwise you'll be in for one hell of a nightmare while being in > > >both the past and the present simultaneously. Thats not a good place > > >to be when the size of the mass is off the scales. > > > > > >Everything in the games manual is working just as its written . All > > >i need to do now is continue on with each of the 16 levels of level > > >five mopping up any residual mass as i go getting each level > > >flattened before moving down to the next level running RI before > > >during and after each level and session . I'm not going to use jr > > >goals packages. > > > > > >RI is different now . It's still needed but the effects are > > >different . When i run RI now i go exterior as a result. Im exterior > > >all the time now anyways but i don't notice it much . When i run RI > > >i go exterior to a greater degree and i notice it very much and the > > >sensation is very cool. > > > > > >I'm sure that the closer i get to the top of level five I'll be able > > >to be very exterior in present time with the ability to operate my > > >body normally from a remote location and still feel normal . > > > > > >The thing about exteriorization , is that when you're out of your > > >body to a greater degree , it feels so unnatural and strange you > > >have a hard time being normal . > > > > > >My eyeballs would open wide, my heart rate would go up , i couldn't > > >speak right and everything seems very strange . The urge to be > > >normal again has me right back into my body where i fell at home , > > >like a prisoner in his prison cell. > > > > > >The ability to get things done with just the power of will is also > > >becoming very obvious. It has been for a while now but its becoming > > >more and more obvious as i go down the chart. I really have to do > > >something twice to get it done . Many times it just gets done > > >without even doing it once. > > > > > >I've realized that if there's no need to use the power , it's not > > >used and i can feel like a guy who has never done TROM . This was a > > >very weird feeling at first . It felt like , HEY ! Im level five and > > >i feel powerless. > > > > > >But thats the hidden ability and freedom of choice. I can decide how > > >to be with just a simple consideration and when i need my power of > > >will , i mean really need it on a higher necessity level , its > > >there for me to use. > > > > > >I brought some intention to use the other day, so to speak, and i > > >was like , DAM. Thats some power right there that i haven't felt > > >for a while. So it's nice to know you have it when you need it but > > >also nice to feel human if you choose too. I like to feel just a l > > >little more than human just to fit in . Otherwise its like feeling > > >like a human walking amongst small insects. You just don't fit in > > >anymore when the power ratio of off that much . > > > > > >Controlling others with simple will power is very cool and very > > >normal now. What's also cool is that when i walk away they return to > > >how they were before i was controlling them . > > > > > >All I need to do is use the same control on a large number of beings > > >simultaneously and have everyone agree to do away with the basic law > > >that governs this universe. > > > > > >Laws of this universe are like all other laws, let's say there's a > > >speed limit law that sates one can only drive 55 mph. If all the > > >people who agreed to the law , created the law and then agreed to it > > >, it becomes a law. When everyone agrees to do away with the law and > > >have no limit , the law no longer applies. > > > > > >When the life in this universe agree to do away with the basic law > > >that governs this universe , that law too will not longer apply and > > >will not have any effect on the life in the universe. > > > > > >It's how im going to do away with the basic law. Im simply going to > > >get everyones agreement to disregard it while those who choose to > > >abide it may continue to do so. > > > > > >Im very certain that those who continue to abide by it will not be > > >doing so after a short while. The more who disregard it the easier > > >it will be for others to join them and eventually it will no longer > > >apply for everyone and be gone for good. > > > > > >So I'll keep at level five for a while and get all the charge , all > > >the mass all mopped up and cleaned up and taken out of existence > > >with time breaking. I'll continue to rebuild my god like spiritual > > >ability until the job is done . We will take the basic law that > > >limits outpour ability to know out of existence for good and free > > >life trapped in this universe. > > > > > >Only life has the ability to limit the ability of life. Life also > > >has the ability to have unlimited ability. > > >It's pure simple logic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Trom mailing list > > >[email protected] > > >http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3066 - Release Date: > > >08/12/10 08:34:00 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20100812/894d0398/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:15:59 -0400 > > From: Colleen Peltomaa <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TROM1] RE 2012 > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > >From Aarre: > > > > Thanks for this good data. I agree with Llewellin about being desirous > of > > being able to turn off games at will and to play them knowingly with > > knowledge of the players, etc. That would be a lot nicer than having to > > play games forever with no end, with one game piling up on top of > another. > > Imagine a football player who still has a stuck 7 from a failed hockey > > game, > > and stuck in a win of a soccer game, and always trying never to play a > bad > > basketball game, all at once without proper start, change, and stop? > It's > > probably not very fun to be playing all 4 games at the same time, because > > they don't run well. Each has different playing techniques and rules. > > Aarre > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20100812/9ff5dbc6/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 73, Issue 34 > > ************************************ > > > > > > -- > Llewellin RG Jegels > Founder of New Adventure Publishing > "Turning Dreams into Reality" > Cell:0715689338 > Fax:0865408636 > email: [email protected] > web: www.newadventurepublishing.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20100813/1c66b04c/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 73, Issue 35 > ************************************ >
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