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This was a flaw LRH had assuming his bank was like everyone else's bank. BT' s
and the like.
The difference with TROM is that it mainly just addresses goals in opposition,
not specific incidents ( effects ) in ones past or a groups past
I' ve time-broken rocks and asteroids with level three general time breaking
but didn't associate them with basic basic or a restatement there of. LRH may
have and others may have too.
All importance is relative to all other importance.
Thats the beauty of TROM . Its not about the effects, its about the basic goal
to know.
Basic basic is total and absolute ability and total freedom of choice. There's
nothing more basic than that. All one needs to do is get " there " and time
break it . But you'll need to peel the onion from the out side inward to get
there.
I wouldn't be saying this if i hadn't been there. Its not a theory of mine .
Its as real as anything else that's real. It's very attainable but you'll need
to work at it and dismantle the opposition that's keeping you from it. That's
what TROM and level five is all about.
No harm in going after the effects. That's what level three is about but the
hardcore of the mind is taken apart on level five. Goals. The effects are the
product of the goals and goals in conflict.
But all of this is mentioned in the games manual . Some of Dennis' tapes too.
On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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> Hi Colleen and Rolf,
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> If you read the TROM chapter on :
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> The four basic complementary postulates.
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> You may see a connection or resemblance between what you are referring to
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>> Hi Colleen,
>> This is just amazing -- I mean exactly what you write.
>> In 1958 they audited a thing called "the rock" and it was the first mock
>> up a
>> person had made and upon which all of the bank was attached. It was a
>> restatement of basic-basic as far as LRH was concerned. He also described
>> the
>> field of debris that the rock could have disintegrated into, what you
>> describe
>> as the asteroid belt.
>> I ran "the rock" on a PC very recently, where it was a sphere (it is
>> usually
>> described as a geometical form but can be other things).
>> Whatever shape it has, it is supposed to be a mock-up the Being uses as a
>> representation of self (a sort of identity) that he uses to reach people
>> with
>> as a sort of via on the comm line.
>>
>> I ran it from HCOB 5 August, 1958 but included some rudiment questions and
>> then
>> the Help bracket from the HCOB and finally 6-directional on the object.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Rolf Dane,
>> Freezone Practitioner.
>> http://www.freezoneauditors.org/index.php/auditor/profile/87/
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>>
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>> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:59:13 -0500
>> From: Colleen Peltomaa <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [TROM1] RE CCHs
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>> Well, the reason I am posting my CCH wins on this particular list (other
>> than the FreezoneOrg List) is that Dennis has a test for whether or not a
>> person needs CCHs. And I did pass that test as far as I could tell, and
>> I
>> did feel I had done enough prior clearing work that I was above needing
>> the
>> CCHs.
>>
>> However, my reach for TROM was still weak and resistant. I'm glad now RC
>> got me to see that re-doing the CCHs would help me be a better auditor and
>> that was why I agreed to them.
>>
>> Last night I ran CCH5. Suddenly, I started crying and saw my "bank" and
>> it
>> looked like a big hard rock. It felt a bit shameful, a bit like losing an
>> old friend, and a bit of joy/grief of release.
>>
>> Then I saw this "rock" disappear. And I could make it appear and
>> disappear. Why, just yesterday RC and I were talking about how "BIG!!!"
>> our case was and it seemed so overwhelming. Last night it looked like a
>> tiny hard rock that I had collected. In fact I saw a polarity of a pretty
>> smooth rock and an ugly shiny gray jagged rock, whatever that meant.
>>
>> Then I found myself in what appeared to be like an asteroid belt and all
>> the
>> rocks and energy constructs were coming into me the thetan and I was
>> "eating" them and having a good time with that.
>>
>> End of session, floating needle :-) This morning I looked at someone
>> else's
>> bank and gently sidestepped it.
>>
>> So, the interest in TROM is still growing and very soon we are putting two
>> and two together more and more.
>>
>> best,
>> Colleen
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>> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:58:54 -0800
>> From: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [TROM1] RE CCHs
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>> HI Colleen
>> Very nice win.
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>> Pete
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>> Behalf Of Colleen Peltomaa
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:59 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [TROM1] RE CCHs
>>
>> Well, the reason I am posting my CCH wins on this particular list (other
>> than the FreezoneOrg List) is that Dennis has a test for whether or not a
>> person needs CCHs. And I did pass that test as far as I could tell, and I
>> did feel I had done enough prior clearing work that I was above needing
>> the
>> CCHs.
>>
>> However, my reach for TROM was still weak and resistant. I'm glad now RC
>> got
>> me to see that re-doing the CCHs would help me be a better auditor and
>> that
>> was why I agreed to them.
>>
>> Last night I ran CCH5. Suddenly, I started crying and saw my "bank" and it
>> looked like a big hard rock. It felt a bit shameful, a bit like losing an
>> old friend, and a bit of joy/grief of release.
>>
>> Then I saw this "rock" disappear. And I could make it appear and
>> disappear.
>> Why, just yesterday RC and I were talking about how "BIG!!!" our case was
>> and it seemed so overwhelming. Last night it looked like a tiny hard rock
>> that I had collected. In fact I saw a polarity of a pretty smooth rock and
>> an ugly shiny gray jagged rock, whatever that meant.
>>
>> Then I found myself in what appeared to be like an asteroid belt and all
>> the
>> rocks and energy constructs were coming into me the thetan and I was
>> "eating" them and having a good time with that.
>>
>> End of session, floating needle :-) This morning I looked at someone
>> else's
>> bank and gently sidestepped it.
>>
>> So, the interest in TROM is still growing and very soon we are putting two
>> and two together more and more.
>>
>> best,
>> Colleen
>>
>>
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