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HI Colleen You asked if people on level 5 feel some desire to save others. I agree with your observations that others are unwilling to let go of their compulsive games playing. My observations of my own and others compulsive games play is that no one wants to let go of their compulsive games play. In addition i find that there is an balance in games play where for every compulsive victim in games there are compulsive malefactors to take the opposing role in their game. Victims seek malefactors and malefactors seek victims. They each need the other to satisfy their compulsion to play their separate roles in their games. My personal feeling at this time is that "saving the planet" is not a game i would like to pursue. The people on this planet are playing their current games as the solution to the last games they lost and will resent anyone taking away the game they are playing.
As a general rule if you take away the current game people are playing at the will adopt a new game of getting you. If you wish to help others remember the first rule for superheros is: Do not try to save others from their folly until they are aware they are in trouble. The exception to the above is that i talk to my wife and children about the games they are playing and even poke fun at them when they try to get me to take a role in one of their games. However, I grant them the beingness that they do not have to stop playing the game just because I say so, and I take no offense when they mock my words or point out my own compulsive games play(that's hard to do at times). The most i am willing to do for the planet is to make the TROM materials available, be a good example to others and use my knowledge to help my wife deal with her games play. This seems to be working. Keep on TROMing Pete --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Colleen Peltomaa <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Peltomaa <[email protected]> Subject: [TROM1] RE Level 5 Completions To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 9:49 PM ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Hello Andre, I expect Pete and Slim to complete. If anyone else has completed they are not here to answer you :-) The good news is that three new people started late last year and are continuing. No, make that four new people :-) All four of us are hovering around Level 3, and one of us may be doing some Level 4, and he also has the greatest understanding of the Postulate Failure chart. He also delivers very very thorough CCHs, not the way the Church of Scn. does it. Timebreaking really works when I do it correctly and consistently. Then I seem to get falsely lulled into a sense of peace and tranquility and stop doing any processing, etc., happy to engage with the environment. Then someone says "boo" to me the wrong way and I have to force myself to open the TROM manual and sit down and have some formal sessions, making new resolves to not let myself get blind-sided like that again. The good news is that there are some moments when I can put myself into a state of total calm, as Dennis says happened with him. Also, I started to notice flickers of an exterior to the body viewpoint. For example, I can sometimes visualize running the body by placing my viewpoint at the back of the body. This only works so far with gross motor functions, such as digging, raking, hauling, etc.. But I am also still getting through the second run of the CCHs, and am on CCH4, which is the one I find the most difficult (book and hand mimicry). Last night I picked up a book on simple carpentry and I discovered that unlike other times I decided it was okay to learn the basics, to mimic what others are doing. It wouldn't "kill" me after all :-) The question I would like to respectfully ask those on Level 5 is: do you share the same concern Dennis seemed to have about clearing the planet, and, if so, do you share his confidence that it can be done with TROM theory and processes as they are now presented? The reason I put out this query is that personally, the more aware I become of games conditions the more it strikes me that there is almost no one I know who wants to give up their compulsive games, or even is aware of what they are doing, even scientologists who post on groups in the Freezone. Even myself, but somehow I "KNOW" that the postulate failure cycle is currently exactly what I need to learn to process and get through to the end, but that knowing did not come facilely. colleen -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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