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I need to add this to this discussion.
There is a difference in looking at reality through the bodies eyes and
looking through the minds eye.
I have on occasion awakened from a dream state with a vivid image of the dream
scape only to have it fade as I compulsively start looking through the bodies
eyes. The body with my eyelids closed sees only blackness while the dream held
some vivid color scene.
I am not yet good enough to turn off the compulsion to use the bodies eyes when
I am aware of the body. Dennis talks in his history tape about being audited
by L Ron Hubbard till he was exterior and could run the body and follow it from
an exterior position and use his minds eye to see what was going on.
I can when asleep forget that I have a body and see scenes clearly but when
awake I can see only dimly through the minds eye.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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>From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]>
>To: TROM <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:23 PM
>Subject: [TROM1] What is Real
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>What is real?
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>From a subjective point of view what is real is the physical universe around
>us. A walk in the park smelling the flowers, watching the clouds roll by and
>feeling the warmth of the sun and rough bark on the trees is what is real.
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>Personally I get excellent visual percepticts on my emotionally charged scenes
>and excellent emotional perceptics on all incidents. Audio and smell are not
>offten percieved but occaisonally are. In one incident there was an explosion
>and it was so real i looked around to see what blew up.
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>Lack of perceptics does not prevent me from running incidents or finding the
>postulate conflicts so i do not worry about getting clear perceptics.
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>My best incident so far was early in timebreaking. I was running level 3 and
>took a look at level 4. The Must Be Known brought up the time when i was 11
>years old and pestering a neighbor girl. She swung her purse at me which hit
>me on the head. It was a stunning blow. I was knocked half unconscious and
>staggered around while she screamed "leave me alone". A classic bouncer that
>kept me out of my childhood past for many years.
> After running the incident i went exterior and toured my childhood
>neighborhood looking at all the fields, back yards, and houses where i used to
>play with my friends. it was wonderful. The color and detail where amazing.
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>Keep on TROMing
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>Pete
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