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Very interesting, Paul ! Oct. 14/'11 Aarre
May I also venture to say that the thetan isn't in the physical universe. He doesn't have a location, as he is not composed of matter, energy, space, and time. He creates those things. He is a static. He puts a viewpoint, mind, body, etc. into the physical universe, but none of those things are 'him'. It's approximately analogous to looking via a camera that is located in another room (your viewpoint) to view things, but 'you' aren't there in the other room. You put up viewpoints whereever you please, maybe more than one at a time. I love the beautiful simplicity of this concept. Thanks, Aarre Peltomaa [email protected] (647) 202-2767 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Paul Tipon <[email protected]>wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > I too wanted to clarify the difference of using MEST eyes vs. Theta > perception and knowingness. > > Let’s first look at the MEST looking. MEST is emanating waves and > reflecting particles and waves. These actions are picked up by the > eye mechanism and create a signal that is transmitted to the brain. > MEST seeing also has a perception of time which is motion. Even in > still objects there is a moment to moment picture with which is > classified as, time is changing. > > Theta looking in the case of TimeBreaking, is Theta looking at > facsimiles. Facsimiles can have motion or no motion. They certainly > are not emanating particles or waves and are not seen by or through > one’s eyes. They may or may not have motion. Whether they have > motion in them or not there is no time passing that they reflect in > their motion other than, it took time for a facsimile action to > occur. If there is a time element taken from the motion, it will > have to be in the context of, what was the time for or of a sequence > then. Because the Thetan has manufactured these facsimiles when they > occurred and is manufacturing them now, there may be a lot of missing > elements but the Thetan only has to put them there for them to be > there. They are not there on their own. Another is they will not be > solid or what one can call real. They have no reality other than to > the Thetan for they are not MEST and do not fall under the definition > of reality. There is where the Thetan can have his reality really > mixed up. > > The definition of reality here is that which is agreed upon in the > MEST Universe by two or more Thetans. Interesting huh. So if there > is not a perfect agreement then MEST is not as solid as one may have > thought, huh. Do you see how it is possible for one to start to go > off the rails? At least it can be said that there is not perfect > reality because no two MEST viewpoints can occupy the same spot. So > you say Theta viewpoints can! Well that’s true but you still may not > have perfect agreement. For now you are having Theta viewpoints and > obviously not MEST eyeball viewpoints. Is MEST going even further > from solid into liquid? Careful you don’t get to the vapor stage. > Things are not as solid as one thought they were and the agreement, > the reality is starting to get a little thin and narrow too, huh! > > Theta can also look at MEST and in doing so, (not using eyeballs) > would it not be the same as looking at facsimiles? > > So one needs to know this. This gives understanding to what is > happening in TimeBreaking. Which truly is the more ‘real’, the more > ‘solid’. Careful now, that you don’t have an emergency and have to > call someone into the room to get reality back. Just joking. I must > say that all depends on how you yourself want to judge what is real > for you. > > So there you have it briefly. There are two types of looking. Both > done differently. Now the question becomes, who or what is doing > both of those lookings? I leave that for you do discover and know. > I simply went briefly into the Tech of looking. There are several > distinct ways of doing that. This should give you fluidity over both > lookings and the right to choose which is more solid and real. But > realize that one does not always have to outrank the other. Yes, the > ranking can be switched back and forth too. That is entirely up to > you. This kinda puts reality in several possible places. > > You might say you now have a new freedom. Use it wisely, use it for > fun. Also see that a reality of others cannot be enforced or > changed. Don’t bother trying to do so, they have to do it. I > believe you will also find this as the four items in Dennis’ Ethics > section towards the end. Now you know why it is there. It’s > actually there to help you, not police you. You will never succeed > though try you may to accomplish any of the four. > > Oh, last but not least …. Can you now answer whether you are > exterior or not? Were you ever really interior??? (I hope you don’t > come up with the answer that you are solid and stuck in a body. Just > joking) > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >
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