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There is a lot more to understanding life and games than there is in scn and 
TROM.  


Hubbard gave the data on how to do that,or where it  is,  in logic 8  and in 
"how to study a science",

 and maybe other places that I am not aware of.

I would say that because of that data,  Hubbard is exonerated from all his 
faults and crimes.

It is the clue to the way out of the trap of scn. 

Those who have eyes to see, ears to hear and a mind to understand will do so.

Scn is a trap for fools and a power and a freedom for the wise. Therefore the 
name  Excalibur. 





Based on my experience, the knowledge of how to live without becoming aberrated 
is contained within the bible.

They are often contained as messages ( subliminal messages ) within allegorical 
stories, etc. , and not laid out in clear and plain language, as in 1,2,3.



You might also find some useful data here too:

http://home.earthlink.net/~loveguru/TRUTHOLOGY.htm



Read the chapters highlighted on this page.

http://www.masterjules.net/ 


David 



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HI Li
� These are very thought provoking statements.

Is it possible to simply Live and not play games?� 

In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to others" 
some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while looking for 
someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find me.
If Dennis is correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary 
postulates to EVERY postulate others create then avoiding getting into a games 
condition is equally difficult.
I may be simply being here on my property bothering no one but my neighbor may 
have the counter postulate that he wants no neighbors.� He can make my life 
difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here directly or he can call 
up the county officials and make complaints about my real or imagined 
violations of obscure rules.
On the other hand does this came about because I have the aberated compulsion 
to be the victim in a game were I can claim in righteous indignation that I was 
on my own property bothering no one?

Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples games 
and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to harass me?

Very interesting ideas.

Thanks Li and David

Pete




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HI Li  These are very thought provoking statements.
Is it possible to simply Live and not play games?  
In this crowded world even if I simply "Be, Joyfullred and harmless to others" 
some neighbors will be in the compulsive games condition and while looking for 
someone to take the opposing role in their compusilve game find me.If Dennis is 
correct that it is very difficult to create complimentary postulates to EVERY 
postulate others create then avoiding getting into a games condition is equally 
difficult.I may be simply being here on my property bothering no one but my 
neighbor may have the counter postulate that he wants no neighbors.  He can 
make my life
 difficult by expressing his opposition to my being here directly or he can 
call up the county officials and make complaints about my real or imagined 
violations of obscure rules.On the other hand does this came about because I 
have the aberated compulsion to be the victim in a game were I can claim in 
righteous indignation that I was on my own property bothering no one?
Is it possible to find all my compulsions to be a victim in other peoples games 
and on timebeaking those find that the neighbor ceases to want to harass me?
Very interesting ideas.
Thanks Li and David
Pete
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The urge itself to play games is aberrated. That in the first place.There is a 
difference between living and playing games.Games were a substitute. Later this 
substitute became a badly wanted thing.Goals and their games are a condition of 
being aberrated twice.

Li
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All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play games 
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