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Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Rolf Dane <[email protected]> > Date: February 19, 2012 4:53:51 AM PST > To: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Clearbird GPM processing > Reply-To: Rolf Dane <[email protected]> > > Hi Pete, > > Thanks for your questions. > > Beginning with what the PC is most upset about is of course common sense. It > doesn't mean we stop there. There are several approaches or rundowns in DCC. > One can address disabilities, areas one shy away from etc., etc. I dont think > addressing all possible flows is necessary an overkill. As long as one only > takes up what is actually charged it makes good sense to check. What makes > DCC different from most other auditing is the style used. We go for the mass > on the case. The style is our version of Effort processing. It can take a > long time to handle just one item but the purpose is to erase mass and that > does take time. Especially for people who have already had a lot of auditing > this style is appropriate. It is time to erase the mass, not just key it out > or pretend its not there. > > Best, > > Rolf Dane, > Ability Coach > http://www.RolfDane.com > From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> > To: Rolf Dane <[email protected]>; The Resolution of Mind list > <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Clearbird GPM processing > > Hi Rolf > > Thanks for responding to my email. What is a line plot? > > TROM at level 2 deals with past scenes then with past persons where the PC > had conflict. At level 5 Dennis Stephens found it was necessary to work all > the flows of the life conflicts the PC had to clean up any residue left on > the case. Dennis states level 2 will handle a lot of charged incidents but > the job of eliminating the mind will not be done until level 5 is run. > > Are you finding that running only what the PC is most upset about handles the > mind completely? > Is reviewing all possible flows on all conflicts the PC had charge on > overkill? > > I am interested in your answer because you have much more auditing experience > than I do. > > Sincerely > Pete > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Rolf Dane <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> >> Hi Pete and all, >> >> Thank you for sharing the "Complete Your Bridge" link on this list. >> >> The main difference between TROM and DEEP Character Clearing (DCC) is >> probably that in DCC we are mainly interested in the idendities (the >> characters) as these IDs become masses on the case. They become stimulus >> response mechanisms in conflict with each other. We do not use the line >> plots as they introduce many possiblilities of going more and more off >> course. >> >> The IDs with their individual traits are where each case is unique and >> getting the charge off these unique IDs gets the charge off the case. The >> Being gets freed up from these stuck or obsessive roles in conflict in life >> and can of course be or execute the appropriate role when called for. >> >> We could probably learn a lot about line plots from TROM, but since it is >> not used in DCC it is a mute point at the moment. >> >> Best, >> >> Rolf Dane >> >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) >> From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> >> To: TROM <[email protected]> >> Subject: [TROM1] Clearbird GPM processing >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> HI All >> ? The Clearbird who wrote out a non Scientology processing system to teach >> and deliver auditing has come out with a site that proposes to deliver Goals >> Problem Mass processing (GPM).? This is the technology that Dennis Stephens >> found had left him with unresolved case.? Clearbird states on his website >> that he had the same problem with COS GPM processing and he believes he has >> solved the problem of delivering GPM auditing. >> ? I reviewed his site and found he only presents half of the postulate >> failure cycle.? I wrote him advising of this gap in his method and offered >> the TROM materials to help get his GPM auditing complete.? Hopefully he will >> adopt the level 5 postulate failure chart and use that as his guide to >> auditing. I will let you know if he responds. >> >> In the mean time you can read over his website here.? I found it very >> interesting. >> >> http://completeyourbridge.org/index.html >> >> Keep on TROMing >> Pete >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20120217/fd758abb/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:41:20 -0800 (PST) >> From: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> >> To: TROM <[email protected]> >> Subject: [TROM1] tidbits from DEEP Processing >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> here is a piece of article #7 at the DEEP site. >> Very interesting >> Pete >> >> >> >> There are different entrances into DEEP Character Clearing. Each way of >> entering >> can be organized into a rundown. At this time, one uses the approach that is >> most appropriate to what the person offers as the? main issue. The most >> obvious starting point is to take a list of individuals that are perceived >> as >> troublesome or hostile to the person. These are in some way in opposition to >> the >> person (or perceived to be) and thus make good processing material as >> counter-poles. When doing that, the "other side" of the polarity is often >> perceived as self in a special capacity or situation. >> >> In addressing this, we address two main stumbling blocks to case progress: >> >> 1) We handle any ongoing conflicts with the upsets, problems and guarded >> secrets >> involved (out rudiments.) >> >> 2) We handle any ongoing suppression on the case, also known as PTSness, at >> its >> root cause. >> >> The main difference between running this action and other actions of DEEP >> Character Clearing is in how you go about getting into the technique. >> Therefore >> there will be some unique steps, mainly at the beginning of an action, for >> the >> different rundowns. >> >> What is taken up as the first action is individuals in the person's present >> time >> the person has difficulties with, meaning lots of problems, conflicts, >> upsets, >> personality clashes, etc. >> >> This can be expanded to troublesome individuals the person has encountered >> earlier in life. >> Also, scanning the person's history for old conflicts and major upsets will >> reveal much material. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20120217/54cee824/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:00:53 +0100 >> From: xrizfz <[email protected]> >> To: Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]>, The Resolution >> of Mind list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] tidbits from DEEP Processing >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" >> >> There is a list known as 53 form. Goes from A to N, out ruds being point >> C and PTS`ness point L. >> Those are all the areas in life one could think of where something can >> be wrong. Needs to be handled in the sequence of A to N. Because one >> will not be able to do much for the pc on lets say out ruds if he has >> out list going ( point B). >> And the pc will not tell the auditor if he does not know what that is. >> Getting out of the way what the pc wants handled first is correct though. >> >> xriz >> >> Am 18.02.2012 02:41, schrieb Pete McLaughlin: >> > ************* >> > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> > ************ >> > >> > >> > here is a piece of article #7 at the DEEP site. >> > Very interesting >> > Pete >> > >> > >> > There are different entrances into DEEP Character Clearing. Each way >> > of entering can be organized into a rundown. At this time, one uses >> > the approach that is most appropriate to what the person offers as >> > the main issue. The most obvious starting point is to take a list of >> > individuals that are perceived as troublesome or hostile to the >> > person. These are in some way in opposition to the person (or >> > perceived to be) and thus make good processing material as >> > counter-poles. When doing that, the "other side" of the polarity is >> > often perceived as self in a special capacity or situation. >> > >> > In addressing this, we address two main stumbling blocks to case progress: >> > >> > 1) We handle any ongoing conflicts with the upsets, problems and >> > guarded secrets involved (out rudiments.) >> > >> > 2) We handle any ongoing suppression on the case, also known as >> > PTSness, at its root cause. >> > >> > The main difference between running this action and other actions of >> > DEEP Character Clearing is in how you go about getting into the >> > technique. Therefore there will be some unique steps, mainly at the >> > beginning of an action, for the different rundowns. >> > >> > What is taken up as the first action is individuals in the person's >> > present time the person has difficulties with, meaning lots of >> > problems, conflicts, upsets, personality clashes, etc. >> > >> > This can be expanded to troublesome individuals the person has >> > encountered earlier in life. >> > Also, scanning the person's history for old conflicts and major upsets >> > will reveal much material. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Trom mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20120218/f2464d50/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> >> End of Trom Digest, Vol 91, Issue 15 >> ************************************ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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