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Hi Paul - sound like you're having fun? I think language is metaphorical
and arguing, often a result of differing semantics.
MASSES, masses are masses and they are not by the way particles unless
you consider particles as a subdivisible singular. Masses are something
that are shed from a thetan by mock-up and particles are something that
are shed from masses. That’s usually the way we find things. (17 ACC-5,
5703PM01)
Martin
On 06 August 2012 07:48, Paul Tipon wrote:
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Over the last several days there have been posts about a postulate
having mass. I disagree with that and have written the following. I
hope this is not seen as my buttons getting pushed or my efforting to
make someone wrong. This is done with the consideration that our
communications need to be fully understood at the receipt points in
order for those communications to communicate. There cannot be two or
more definitions for words that we all use otherwise, there would
really be no communication but each simply deciding what they thought
and not what someone has said to them.
I leave it for anyone who wishes to review what I see and take it or
leave it. It is entirely up to each and everyone. My only desire is
that we better communicate to each other. That we actually get what
the other person has said.
If a postulate is made of mass, it can and will exist in the MEST
Universe. Is it then not true that because postulates have mass that
they will not exist in the Theta/spiritual universe?
The Theta/spiritual universe is not physical and is not composed of
MEST. It then consists of ideas, thoughts, concepts and of course
spirits, Thetans. It does not decay or change because of time. There
is no time in the spiritual universe for there is no space, no
distances to traverse, no speeds to be measured. And of course without
any of those things, energy would not exist in the Theta/spiritual
universe for there is no action either and simply no need for energy.
With no physical space in the spiritual/Theta universe where would
there be any mass in the spiritual/Theta universe? Where could it
reside? Where could it occupy a corner? Is it not true that there is
no 'where' in the spiritual/Theta universe? Can the spiritual/Theta
universe be located? Can it be pointed to? Does mass exist in the pure
Theta/spiritual universe?
If there was only a spiritual/Theta universe and no MEST Universe,
would there then be no postulates if postulates have mass. If
postulates had mass could they then only exist if there were a
physical universe? Would they then never exist if there were only the
spiritual/Theta universe, no MEST Universe?
If postulates were made of mass, would spirits/Thetans not need a
physical universe in order to postulate?
Here is the definition out of the Tech Dictionary of Scn. Postulate:
1) A self created truth would be simply the consideration generated by
self. Well, we just borrow the word, which is in seldom use in the
English language, we call that [a] postulate. And we mean by
postulate, self-created truth. He posts something. He puts something
up and that's what a postulate is. 2) a postulate is, of course, that
thing which is a directed desire or order, or inhibition or
enforcement, on the part of the individual in the form of an idea, 3)
that self-determined thought which starts, stops or changes past,
present or future efforts. 4) is actually a prediction. As a verb: 1)
in Scn the word postulate means to cause a thinkingness or
consideration. It is a specially applied word and is defined as
causative thinkingness. 2) to conclude, decide or resolve a problem or
to set a pattern for the future or to nullify a pattern [a conclusion,
decision or problem] of the past. 3) to generate or 'thunk' a concept.
A postulate infers conditions and actions rather than just plain
thinks [thinking]. It has a dynamic connotation.
The brackets, [ ], are my personal changes with the idea that
communication is improvedsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
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