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Hi David
Thanks for telling me how you feel. However, on a TROM mailing list it should
be reasonable to point out what Dennis said on a subject.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:12 AM, "David M. Pelly" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Pete,
>
> You talk like Dennis is God or an absolute authority on clearing, creation
> and almost everything else.
>
> Or in other words you deify him.
>
> That is the same as most scngists do.
>
> In other words you think that the truth is determined by authority.
>
> That is also the inability to reason, which is as Dennis defined insanity.
> (that is one thing he was right on)
>
>
> That view point is from a very low level on the tone scale as detailed in
> the Hubbard chart of Human Evaluation.
>
> "Not thinking" is 0.5.
>
>
> "Not wanting change" is the about the same.
>
>
>
> It is intellectually painful and nauseating to read such stuff and see it
> posted for everyone else to read.
>
>
> It is very apparent, if you take an impartial or pan determined honest
> evaluating look at Dennis' written and spoken word that he did not resolve
> his case, nor reach nirvana.
>
> Far from everything Dennis said is gospel.
>
> The worst lies are the ones that are almost true. The more truth there is on
> a fabricated mental construct, the more the truth acts a s a glue to hold the
> embedded lies in place, which is thereafter not inspected or evaluated and
> often defended to death.
>
> TROM and Scientology are excellent examples of that.
>
>
>
>
>
> Take an honest look and do some critical thinking.
>
> Evaluate every datum on it's own merits and compare it against every other
> datum of comparable
> magnitude in the known universe to determine it's workability and therefore
> truth or degree of truth.
>
>
>
> That is the message in Hubbard's article: "How to study a science".
>
> That is the simple formula for understanding and knowing.
>
> If you don't do that to Scientology, TROM and everything else, you are just
> a parrot, and being a parrot is just another form of aberration.
>
> Pretty much the same a solopsist.
>
> Nothing is true unless it is proven to be true, and truth is determined by
> workability, or the number of problems a datum solves, not by authority.
>
>
>
> By deifying Dennis you are proving yourself to be insane.
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:12:37 -0700
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Here's another Thetan twister to ponder. to David
> >
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> > Hi Paul
> > On several occasions in his writings Dennis states that this universe is
> > composed of only life and postulates.
> >
> > that being the case then all the mass of this universe is postulates. or at
> > least percieved as postulates.
> >
> > if you start at the very beginning before there were universes there was
> > only the one being called God by most people. at that point there was no
> > mass and no universes there was only God. then he started making things and
> > suddenly there was earth, water, air, fishes, birds etc Where did the mass
> > come from?
> >
> > Dennis states that the mass is a byproduct of games play and is generated
> > when postulates are forced into conflict with opposing postulates. these
> > fused bits of opposing postulates are what is percieved as mass and all the
> > stuff in this universe is made of postulates.
> >
> > Keep on TROMing
> > Pete
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Paul Tipon <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 6, 2012, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Yes, Paul, I would say that they are perceived as mass, because
> > >> postulates are causitive.
> > >>
> > >> And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict
> > >> with universal law or someone else's postulate.
> > >>
> > >> David
> > >
> > > Yes, I agree with that. Under those circumstances that you mention,
> > > postulates can be perceived as mass and certainly in Scn many things are
> > > called massey, thick, heavy, etc. My error was thinking that it was being
> > > stated that a postulate has mass.
> > >
> > > Paul/Level 5 in progress
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