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Von: Paul Tipon <[email protected]>
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Gesendet: 18:24 Dienstag, 7.August 2012
Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Here's another Thetan twister to ponder. to xriz
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Hi xriz,
Your first post did not get sent out as an email by TROM so I have combined
both here in my email answer. Second, in order to properly address your post I
am going to have to break it down further.
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I did not notice that i did not
write to the list as i intended.
On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Paul Tipon wrote:
> Postulates are causative.......that makes me look instantly because it gives
> me a theta hickup and i want to know why.
A postulate itself is not causative. Per the definition I posted earlier, it
exists only in the Theta/spiritual universe. Therefore it is an idea, a
thought, a consideration with intention and future, if it relates to the MEST
Universe. Once it then comes into the MEST Universe it can be denoted as cause
and then too it has ARC. For it now exists in MEST, it is occupying space and
has a flow to it, action. From the point it emanates from, that is cause where
it goes to is effect. It then, as it exists will have A and R to it for you
and for others. What that A & R is depends on each individual assigning to it
an affinity and a reality, their personal A & R as well as you have your own A
& R of it. Over time you and whoever others can change your and their A & R as
each desires whether by choice (free-will) or by individual mind command.
Initial A & R is also a function of choice or individual mind command,
depending on one's case.
I hope this gives you an idea as to why a hiccup in the first place and that it
also gives you a viewpoint to discover what that hiccup is and is all about.
Yea, that thing can become an automatic and the person may not be cause over it
any longer. Hence change in cause assignment.
> My first glance shows me that the person binds itself to a postulate, then is
> the power and source in order to make sure that the postulate is executed as
> it says. The person signs and adheres to a contract, limits itself in order
> to ensure the contract is true and alive.
There are more reasons than just to "in order to ensure the contract is true
and alive'. You have to discover for yourself what that reason is. This is
not automatic or a given but maybe if it is a mind originated response to
action. Once again, you have to discover for yourself what is happening. No
one else can do that for you. Each must do that for themselves only. This is
the reason that evaluation by one to another then becomes invalidation. It is
also the reason for the High Crime of eval & inval in Scn for an auditor to do
this. It is not help but evil destruction of another's beingness and worst
case a reason for one to question their own Theta/spiritual beingness and
therefore power.
Postulates which are held up consciously are easy. They can be dropped any time
or held up as pleased. Once they are forgotten they run on automatic. Also it
is curious that the forgotten postulates become reality and we are astonished
what occurs in our lifes.
Evaluating for someone is bad indeed. That tells the person : "you are not able
to think properly, therefore i do it for you, fool". When the truth is that
everyone can evaluate correctly when he has the proper data. Proper data come
from the right things that were perceived and inspected. So, the constructive
thing to do is to tell the person what the correct things are that can be
looked at.
There is more to that though. I can have one person inspect one corner of a
room and another person another corner. Two truthes that are not everything
that needs to be known. A person who is aware what rooms are is what it takes.
One can fend this off if he is aware enough to see an eval from another that
can also then become an inval. Just make them attempted eval & inval by
another by not taking them on as a truth. 'It's coming from over there, not
from me.' Watch that you are not doing this for yourself, to yourself. This
is the anatomy of a trap and the anatomy of how to trap.
I know the anatomy in my words :)
It is to rely on someones report about how things are. Then continue not
inspecting oneself and act based on the report. If unlucky the report does not
match the truth.
> Postulates are null of course the moment a person becomes aware of the
> postulates it holds up and decides that it will not hold them up any longer.
>
Yes and in my answers above, I hope I have given you some truths which you can
now use as tools to discover why you may or may not be making those decisions.
Is it fee-will or from the mind.
As i get it you say the same like me in other words :)
My decissions are about my body most of the time currently. I cant exteriorize
and have to stick with that thing. A human body is set up for doing this and
that and has little to do with what i want to do. When i find out how i bind
myself to the body unwittingly i will be relieved a lot.
> There are postulates which are powered by many. Such contracts are called
> reality ;) I have that last sentence wrong. Such contracts are called
> agreement. Reality is a personal matter.
>
Yes, that is true and actually true in both cases depending on what you are
saying. For there is common reality, the MEST Universe and individual
reality. Not a wrongness but a need for additional words to make a clear
distinction of what is meant because there are two different items there and
many times just the word reality is used in both instances/meanings which can
be misleading.
Yes.
Thanks a lot for your input. I appreciate it !
xriz
> xriz
Paul/Level 5 in progress
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