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Hi Paul (and Pete),
Of course. I think I may have relied too much upon implication in the
first post. What I elaborated upon in the second is contained there, but
only if you get all of Spare's words and what I'm saying about them.
They reveal the lies in the TROM manual. But I underestimate how
difficult Spare's language is at first.
My follow up to Pete actually stated the situation much more explicitly:
'2. Dennis links the 'code of an ethical being' /with his epistemology.
/Now, it's a very good code. It's a wonderful code. By all means follow
that code /by choice/. But what Dennis did was... to impose the code
against the being's will by asserting that not following it is in some
relevant way damaging, which actually violates it. In the very act of
creating the code as though it were /damaging to the being not to follow
it/ he demonstrated that he didn't believe in it, /and that he was
attempting to get the not _totally_/_/enlightened/_/into a state where
they would convince themselves into being damaged every time they
violated it/. Because the enlightened /know/ that no such code is
inherently interlinked with the experience of being enlightened, and
that a being can go from incarnation to incarnation, awakened, without
following it and without having its own interests harmed for not
following it.
Most enslaving lies start out as an attempt to achieve some good. Dennis
discussed, in the TROM manual, whether it was /ok/ to give beings such
power as he was making available to them. And his answer was explicitly
/his ethical code/. He implied that the enlightened would understand
that it was simply /in error/ to violate that code. But that is not so.
Dennis was answering a problem that many sages face in distributing
their knowledge, and his answer was to create a /lie/ of an
epistemology. Many sages do this. This is called 'the right hand path'.
Any 'right hand path' school, including the Golden Dawn and almost every
institutionalised form of mysticism, is a school based upon a lie in an
attempt to keep dangerously powerful knowledge within structures that
lie about themselves.
The thing is, /every RHP school _is a violation of the code and the
limitations they propagate_/_._ Every RHP school is an attempt to entrap
a being against its will, to protect society from that being's newfound
power. And, in so far as it propagates a code like TROM's as though it
were a cosmological necessity (which most do), /it is a violation of
that code/. /It is a hypnotic implant/ /from a more knowing being into a
less knowing being, to control the less knowing being in accordance with
the more knowing being's will/. You can see why they do this: they don't
want people fucking around with taking over the world and getting slaves
for themselves as they achieve more and more power. So they pretend that
these activities will harm the being, and that very pretense and the
belief in it is the only thing which will actually harm the being. They
hope that by the time a being /does /reach enlightenment he'll be so
socially connected to the structure that he'll just choose to carry on
with it, or will have seen by example that the hypnotism was the right
path for the school to take. And many of them deliberately only
/partially /enlighten either all adherents or any adherent they don't
trust to follow and perpetuate the code, or make certain /vows/ a
prerequisite to receiving the most potent forms of knowledge.
TROM and Spare are unique in giving this understanding outside of any
such /social /structure, but TROM is a hypnotic RHP form of
pseudo-enlightenment in the same tradition. I am a being who will accept
for myself and others only /*total truth*/. I do not see people have
reached enlightenment as the ones who get to decide for others, or as
any more qualified to do so. And over many lifetimes of playing this
game in the inner sanctum of such schools I have seen that their
attempts usually end up in total toxicity, only perpetuating even more
complete forms of enslavement and confusion. That is why I associate
with TROM and Spare, and why I am here deconstructing the lies in TROM,
and why I am here. There is no real protection but understanding. And
nobody can protect another in any effective sense, in the long run,
except by enabling that being full power to protect and understand for
itself.
I recommend careful study of Spare /as the antidote/ to the lies in
TROM, to be read after level 4 but before or during level 5. His work is
actually perfectly logically and sensibly written. It's just hard to
grasp that at first because of how /sheer and pure/ his presentation of
truth is. You just need to make sure you understand exactly what every
words means and how it is being used, and be careful to make sure that
you understand how he's using grammar. It's often now what you think at
first. Each chapter is like an equation. If any part doesn't make total
mathematical sense, carry on and don't act on your understanding of it
yet. Ignore /Ethos/, his book about techniques and magic. Spare's work
has its own flaws, but the purpose for this reccomendation is that
grasping /Spare's/ mathematical/logical purity, which leads to different
conclusions that TROM's, will nullify the belief that TROM's seeming
logical purity is the only possible one. It will free a being from both. '
Relevant quotes from the TROM manual:
'Ethics.
It's relevant to ask at this stage, Should a beings'
native abilities be restored to him? Would he not
immediately, alone or in association with others so
freed, hold the rest of mankind in slavery for his own
ends?
The answer to this question lies in the difference
between a being in a compulsive games condition, and
a being who plays games by choice. Mankind today is
in a compulsive games condition. By this I mean he
has lost his power of choice in the matter. He must
play games; he must win these games; and he must do
these things regardless of all else. You see this frenetic
activity around you every day. It's all become so deadly,
deadly serious; a matter of life and death.
..
As the being walks this route he soon perceives that
there is a basic code of ethics that governs conduct,
and that when he violates this code he suffers just as
much as his victim.
1) NEVER FORCE A PERSON TO KNOW A THING
AGAINST THEIR CHOICE.
2) NEVER PREVENT A PERSON FROM
KNOWING.
3) NEVER FORCE A PERSON TO MAKE A THING
KNOWN.
4) NEVER PREVENT A PERSON FROM MAKING
A THING KNOWN.
This code is as easy to live by as the being is no
longer in a compulsive games condition. Evaluate
yourself against it, for it will give you many insights
into the nature of your current compulsive games
conditions. When a being is free from the compulsive
playing of games he quite naturally lives by this code;
he would no more dream of violating it than he would
of cutting his own throat. For he knows all too well
the consequences.
It's entirely safe then to free a being, for what being
could be considered dangerous who lives by such a
code?'
This is a lie. There are also others.
On 27/08/2012 04:55, Pete Mclaughlin wrote:
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Paul is correct,you need to state what Dennis said that was a "lie" concerning
TROM.
Sincerely
Pete
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