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Paul,
Thanks much.  A good orientation.
Aarre Peltomaa

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Paul Tipon <[email protected]>wrote:

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> This is a back channel post to another TROMmer about OT3.  I will be
> posting more too.
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> On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>> I see your point and understand that well.
>> Can you tell me back channel what the false informations are ? Would be
>> great though if it can be said openly on the list here.
>> I certainly want to get rid of false philosophies i swallowed unwittingly.
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>> thanks
>> xriz
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> One has to realize that not everyone suffered from the engram of OT3.
>  Depending on one's participation or non-participation is one factor.
>  Whether or not one was one of those trapped and sent to Earth and is still
> being a body Thetan or has since moved up the Thetan ladder is another
> factor.  Then there are the ones not trapped at all who only observed or
> ran the trapping.  LRH did nothing to sort out what should be run in
> accordance with one's involvement.  Some were not even near the incident
> and had no news or any data on it at all.
>
> I have some consideration that Level 4 runs out OT3.  When you get the
> cognition of 'Freedom from Overwhelm', you will know what I mean.  In the
> mean time, Level 4 is heavily into overts and motivators.  Ego is also on
> that line.  Making others wrong and self right is an ego thang.  The
> justification line that everyone puts out is also an ego thang.  One doing
> a motivator is both an ego thang and a justification thang.  And of course
> a motivator leads to new justified overts.
>
> These are all actions that have nothing to do with games but of course get
> used and put into the playing of games.  The biggest factor that keeps any
> aberration in is avoidance which is a withhold phenomena which is an
> overt/motivator package product.  It is important to handle overts and
> motivators as it is to handle one's case of engrams.  The two do not mix
> but they sure get heaped onto the pile with each other and mixed and
> blended up into a really ugly smoothie.
>
> This is why I really stress Level 4 and I effort to get others to see how
> really big a Level it is.  It is the biggest.  It will provide the most
> gains.  It has the capacity to solve all of one's case, both engramic and
> withhold wise.
>
> There is also the obvious result from Level 4 of handling GPMS.  They just
> kind of disappear because they are largely de-stimulated but not erased
> completely.  As a minimum, the overts and motivators attached to GPMs
> greatly reduce and if done thoroughly, all can be as-ised.  These overts
> and motivators that are directly connected to GPMs are the major portion of
> the charge that GPMs have.  I believe anything left over can get handled in
> Level 5 where the unknownness to knownness can handle the silly, moronic
> packages that are the terminals vs. opterms can get as-ised by truth and
> knownness.
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> Paul/Level 5 in progress
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