************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Below is another of Marty's blogs: I find the conclusion interesting in that he speaks of liberation from "Time" - which is what TROM is all about. LOL - Should we wait for him to discover TROM?
Martin The Tao of Physics by martyrathbun09 Scientology technology is powerful in lifting an individual from being effect up to being more at cause. In accomplishing that Scientology focuses heavily on, and makes great use of, Newtonian classic physics principles. Unfortunately, ultimately that world view tends to lock a Scientologist under a glass ceiling of sorts to further transcendence of awareness and qualities of equanimity. Evaluated against the very axioms (including The Factors and Logics) Scientology is predicated upon one could easily reckon that to be the case. Paradoxically, Scientology contains laws of interpretation that make one of its own Logics, critical to growth and transcendence, forbidden practice: Logic 8: A Datum can be evaluated only by a datum of comparable magnitude. Thus, the first comprehensive fusion of Eastern thought with Western science ultimately disallowed study of either in the continuing search for truth and higher levels of consciousness. A very good primer for a) evaluating what is valuable about one's Scientology experience and what about Scientology makes it so effective, and b) beginning the process of transcending from where Scientology might leave one in terms of consciousness, is the book The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra (recommended to me by the irrepressible Scott Campbell). Even though the book was first published in 1975, and it has been followed by dozens of authors treading similar ground of analyzing breakthroughs in sub atomic physics to Eastern wisdom and consciousness, I have found it to be the most thorough, layman-friendly piece on the subject to date. I highly recommend this book to anyone who has experienced Scientology. Most particularly to those who have completed the Scientology OT Levels, started the Scientology OT Levels, or who have any intention of pursuing them in the future. It will provide vital context for your experience. It might help prevent you from becoming fixated, and set up for a big lose, on the quest for total causation. And it might help to take you to higher levels of consciousness not contemplated or permitted in Scientology (through consequent practice of Scientology techniques). As I have noted before, I believe that it is essential to the transcendence of Scientology to rise above the fixation on attaining to the permanent state of causation. The fixation can ultimately result in a painful state of effect or an arrogant state of hallucinatory cause. In either event, it parks one in any quest for continuing transcendence to higher states of being. Here is an excerpt from the Tao of Physics that gives a of brief description how the confluence of Eastern wisdom and Western science supports that view: Many of the Eastern teachers emphasize that thought must take place in time, but that vision can transcend it. 'Vision', says Govinda, 'is bound up with a space of a higher dimension, and therefore timeless.' The space-time of relativistic physics is a similar timeless space of a higher dimension. All events in it are interconnected, but the connections are not causal. Particle interactions can be interpreted in terms of cause and effect only when the space-time diagrams are read in a definite direction, e.g. from the bottom to the top (note: space-time diagrams are explained earlier in the book). When they are taken as four-dimensional patterns without any definite direction of time attached to them, there is no 'before' and no 'after', and thus no causation. Similarly, the Eastern mystics assert that in transcending time, they also transcend the world of cause and effect. Like our ordinary notions of space and time, causation is an idea which is limited to a certain experience of the world and has to be abandoned when this experience is extended. In the words of Swami Vivekananda, Time, space and causation are like the glass through which the Absolute is seen.In the Absolute there is neither time, space nor causation. The Eastern spiritual traditions show their followers various ways of going beyond the ordinary experience of time and of freeing themselves from the chain of cause and effect - from the bondage of karma, as the Hindus and Buddhists say. It has therefore been said that Eastern mysticism is a liberation from time. In a way the same may be said of relativistic physics. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Tipon Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TROM1] TROM and OT abilities ************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Hi Pete and All, On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Here is an interesting article. Note that the development of > Scientology started with relief from the reactive mind then later > focused on the development of abilities. TROM is all about relief > from the mind and does nothing about developing OT abilities. > > Keep on TROMing > > Pete > Another perspective is that abilities are not gained or developed, they are already there and inherent to what an OT is. One just eliminates the chains and barriers holding oneself and his abilities back. Those chains and barriers are self-imposed via the reactive mind. > > Is Spirit of Quality or Quantity? > > by martyrathbun09 > > For the first several years of L. Ron Hubbard's research into a > path to enlightenment, his focus was on simplicity. In that wise, > his quest aligned perfectly with the ancient universal truths he > sought to make more easily and uniformly attainable. Those truths, > per Hubbard, were particularly well articulated by Siddhartha > Gautama (the Buddha), and Lao Tzu in the Tao TeChing. Hubbard > seemed to understand, and could communicate in modern language, the > Buddhist and Taoist descriptions of the spiritual, the difficult to > conceptualize ideas of 'emptiness' or 'nothingness'. Hubbard > lectured as follows on 1 December 1954: > > You can have a quality in complete absence of a quantity. You > don't have to be 'a quart of good boy'. And this was what he (the > scientist) was assuming, see. The next time you see a pound of > lust, send it around and we'll put it in a museum. These things > are not quantitative. > > So we had to get out of quantitative thinking, thinking in terms of > objects and masses, before we had any real comprehension of > existence. And this was very easy to do. Very easy to do. You > merely had to define what zero was . And we find that life, > basically the awareness of awareness unit in life, is not a thing > of quantity ? not even vaguely of quantity. It is a thing > ofquality, of ability. > > Where you have ability, you have life. Where you have space, > energy, mass , I don't care what kinds of energy. The energy > contained in your engrams. The energy contained in mental > pictures. The space contained in your visios or lack of them. > Anytime you have any quantity of any kind, you have walked downhill > from life. Just like that. And this works out. This works out in > processing, works out gorgeously. > > Scientology counseling (processing or auditing) does work out quite > gorgeously when a thetan (the awareness of awareness unit, or > individual spiritual being) is considered in this wise. When this > framework is kept in mind, Scientology procedures are rather > simple. That is because all of them are used toward the result of > removing additives, or complexities, and returning the quality of > the awareness of awareness unit to itself. That quality is > uniformly found to be good by universally recognized human standards. > > Hubbard clearly mapped philosophy and procedures that brought about > abilities (qualities) in a being that culminate in the state of > Clear. Hubbard defined a Clear as 'an unrepressed and self- > determined being" who is no longer subject to stimulus-response > reactive thought processes. > > Unfortunately, the issue becomes muddled as one assays to move > higher on the Scientology path, called the Bridge. Above Clear, > they reached for states no longer expressed in terms of freedoms > from the additives that hamper a being. Instead, Scientologists > shoot for the vaunted state of 'cause'. Cause over matter, > energy, space, time, and life is the state that is promised. > Powers become the target. Rather than the removal of additives > the goal becomes the inclusion of an additive, expressed in a term > that infers physical properties or force, power. > > In formal, organizational Scientology the relentless promotion and > cultural propaganda and pressure hammer that theme home. They > seize upon some later seemingly contradictory words of Ron > mentioned in policy letters and bulletins because of later turns > Hubbard himself took. By the mid sixties he began to contradict > the maxim regarding quality versus quantity. Beings were > increasingly considered to vary in size, or to be recognizable by > something other than quality, the new measure being quantity. > > For example, in a policy letter issued on 22 March 1967 Hubbard > introduced the idea of size with respect to thetans. He wrote, > "Some thetans are bigger than others. None are truly equal." He > went on to instruct that smaller beings, whom he designated as > degraded beings, occur 'about eighteen to one over Big Beings in > the human race' (minimum ratio). > > Along with that shift of focus onto size came the introduction of > different goals for processing. Rather than the original goal of > returning a being to the simple, uniformly good, freedom from the > additives tainting the being?s quality, the focus went toward > achieving powers. Conditions of existence were issued along with > formulas one could apply in life to improve one's condition. Those > conditions were determined primarily by the quantity produced as > measured by statistics. The most senior of those conditions to > which all of them were designed to lead toward was called 'Power'. > While those condition formulas were, and are, very workable, the > schema contributed to a culture of lust toward attainment of power. > > The very definition of power in Scientology radically changed as > follows: > > a) The ability to maintain a position in space. 1 March 1958 > > b) The amount of work which can be accomplished in a unit of > time or the amount of force which can be applied in a unit of > time. 6 December 1966 > > Over time the adjective ?powerful? became regularly associated with > 'thetan' in Scientology think and speak. Scientologists began to > promote and covet the idea of becoming a big, powerful thetan. > Scientology promotion became more geared toward such ideas as > 'unleashing the power of the thetan', and bestowing 'super > power'. Achievements in the Scientology world were ascribed as > attributes of 'powerful thetans' and 'big beings'. Conversely, > bad conduct was routinely condemned as that of smaller beings. > > Exacerbating matters were more Hubbard policies that excused > otherwise destructive behaviorof beings based upon the size or > power of the individual, particularly when that alleged size or > power was abused in the forwarding of the power of Scientology as a > movement. Thus, in the policy The Responsibilities of Leaders, > Hubbard's 'seven points of power' suggested the ends justify the > means when protecting the 'power' one relies upon for his own > power. Hubbard suggests the physical beating of the critic of the > power one relies upon and serves is commendable behavior. He even > suggests that a real power would accept those who rely upon his > power murdering enemies of the power. And that a true power would > encourage his underlings to keep him ignorant of the crimes they > commit in increasing his power. In fact another Hubbard ethics > policy letter stated that an individual who produced a lot toward > expansion of Scientology could 'get away with murder'. This is true of several OT 8's that I personally know about. > > In the years that Scientology evolved in this fashion, most > particularly after the death of Hubbard, its very aims were > demonstrably altered in significant ways. Gradually, alleviating > the world of 'insanity', 'war', and 'criminality' was replaced by a > drive to wreak 'planetary obliteration' or exact 'global vengeance' > against the Scientology-designated evil-doers of earth. > > It fairly makes one wonder whether somewhere along the line > Scientology lost sight of its own purpose and the quality of life > it was created to restore. > > Does Scientology address beings as 'qualities' that lost sight of > their own very nature by introduction of the confusion of > 'quantity' into the equation? > > Or does Scientology address beings as 'quantities' that need to > have some quantity added to them to become sufficiently big and > powerful? > I am pleasantly surprised that Marty has come around and is seeing truth. I followed him closely while he was an executive in Scn. He partook in several Out-Ethics endeavors being the Scn front man. The major one that comes to mind is Scn's interference with the lawsuits against Eli Lilly and Prosac. He could disclose a lot more that he probably knows about. Marty's above viewpoints are very much in line and parallel with what I found to be true for me about Ron and Scn. Especially the timing. Keep Tromming, Paul, Level 5 in progress _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6214 - Release Date: 03/30/13 _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
