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Today's Topics:
1. Differences between postulates (Cory keeler)
2. Re: Differences between postulates (Pete Mclaughlin)
3. Re: Differences between postulates (Cory keeler)
4. Re: Differences between postulates (Pete Mclaughlin)
5. Re: Differences between postulates (Aarre Peltomaa)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 02:05:20 -0600
From: Cory keeler <corykeeler...@gmail.com>
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Subject: [TROM1] Differences between postulates
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Hi everyone. I'm having difficulty seeing differences between the
postulates of mustn't be known and must not be known. Are they not just the
same concept but reworded? Any examples?
Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:12:34 -0700
From: Pete Mclaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [TROM1] Differences between postulates
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Hi Cory
And welcome to TROM.
These two are the same postulate.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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Hi everyone. I'm having difficulty seeing differences between the
postulates of mustn't be known and must not be known. Are they not
just the same concept but reworded? Any examples?
Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:55:39 -0600
From: Cory keeler <corykeeler...@gmail.com>
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Ah ok I suspected that before thanks. What I meant to write was must not be
known vs must not know. Why does he include the be part? And must be known
and must know. Whats the difference? Thanks!
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Hi Cory
And welcome to TROM.
These two are the same postulate.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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> Hi everyone. I'm having difficulty seeing differences between the
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same concept but reworded? Any examples?
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> Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:22:29 -0700
From: Pete Mclaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [TROM1] Differences between postulates
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Hi Cory
Must Be known is the creative postulate.
While sailing at night the skipper does not want to run on he rocks.
He must not run onto the rocks. Fortunately the light house light is
on "must be known" so he can know "must know" where the rocks are.
The wreckers want the ship to run onto the rocks so they can steal
the cargo. They turn off the light house light, "must not be known"
so the skipper will not see the rocks until its too late. The
skipper "must not know" until he can't avoid the rocks.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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Ah ok I suspected that before thanks. What I meant to write was
must not be known vs must not know. Why does he include the be
part? And must be known and must know. Whats the difference? Thanks!
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Hi Cory
And welcome to TROM.
These two are the same postulate.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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> Hi everyone. I'm having difficulty seeing differences between
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not just the same concept but reworded? Any examples?
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> Thanks!
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:44:43 -0400
From: Aarre Peltomaa <peltomaa.aa...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TROM1] Differences between postulates
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Hi Cory,
The word 'be' means your receiving from another.
*Must be known* - Someone/something else must know you. You receive his
knowing.
*Must know* - You must know someone/something else. He receives your
knowing.
*Must not be known* - Someone/something else must not know you. You must
not receive his knowing.
*Must not know* - You must not know someone/something else. He must not
receive your knowing.
The question is 'who' must know or not know, or be known or not be
known. We assume that it is you, unless stated otherwise. If Cory must
be known, then 'Susan' must know Cory. If 'Susan' must be known, then
you (Cory) need to know 'Susan'.
Study the chart to determine 'who' must or must not know. Who is the
subject in question?
Aarre Peltomaa
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Ah ok I suspected that before thanks. What I meant to write was must not
be known vs must not know. Why does he include the be part? And must be
known and must know. Whats the difference? Thanks!
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pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hi Cory
And welcome to TROM.
These two are the same postulate.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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> Hi everyone. I'm having difficulty seeing differences between the
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same concept but reworded? Any examples?
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> Thanks!
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