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Well I'm not sure I can answer your question slim. But I do have my own view of 
the universe. I made some videos a while back that represents something we all 
physically have:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pzYrj97Nz8A

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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 7:45 PM, "Slim ." <[email protected]> wrote:
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> David, and Cory,
> 
> Im pefectly ok with the  " its always been and will always be  " concept. 
> Even with a zero or no things at some point and then creation.......infinatly 
> too as in always has always will be.
> 
> But ....... my question is about the first point of view ever. Before there 
> was any thing created in this or any universe.
> 
> how did the original , the first point from which to view come into being?
> 
> Time is actually distance between a single object. When we view the whole 
> object all at once the illusion of time disappears. Its only when we not know 
> and then know part of the whole object that the illusion of time becomes 
> virtual reality.
> 
> Pfsst . This list is a universe in its own way. It has laws and an owner, 
> moderator and beings within the list... namly us.
> 
> The owner of the trom list and the moderator can change the list universe, 
> make additions and delete the creations of list members at will while the 
> list members must ask permission to have these things accomplished. List 
> members must ask permission to join the list and can have their identity 
> banned by the list owner aka admisistrator. We have abilities withit it too, 
> just like the 42ndst universe.
> 
> This universe I call 42nd street is no different. The owner and moderators 
> can ban an identity ( list member ) leaving the list member no choice but to 
> assume a new identity before returning.
> 
> There are univereses within universes and this trom list  universe is no 
> exception.
> 
> Its not about the first thing ever created. Its about the creator and how it 
> came to be. BEFORE anything was ever created anywhere.
> 
> Sean,
> 
> Thx for the Phasing tech link , I'll check it out .
> 
> I met with one of my customers last night who has passed away . I was on a 
> service call doing some repair work for him at his new home. Adding a motion 
> detector to his alarm system.  As soon as I finished I came back to my body 
> in bed and woke up. The timing was perfect.
> 
> Anything can be accomplished in that universe and things can be brought into 
> and taken out of exsistence by anyone in it but they simply dont realize they 
> can or others can while in it until they leave it or awake from it. I 
> shouldnt say no one , some csn and some do . The creator of that universe can 
> do anything and is entertained by us as we operate within it.
> 
>   Its actually against the laws of that universe. We call it a dream. But its 
> very real . It too has an owner, a list administrator.  Like the trom list 
> and like the 42ndstreet universe.
> 
> The owner of this universe ( 42nd street ) is operated by and moderated by 
> more than one god known as angels.
> 
> Also, there is a senior life being  who is actually the sole owner and has 
> absolue control.  These are the same almost native state beings ive mentioned 
> in my recent past posts.
> 
> There is the owner or an owner and there are moderators of this universe and 
> there are members. I have my own universe I call the 1. Yes im also named the 
> 1 ( not one )  in my universe. But thats another subject . The owner of this 
> universe and myself are friends but im simply a member most of the time and 
> an angel too at times. Kind of how Pete is to Flemming. And then sometimes  
> kind of how Slim is to Pete. And how Pete is to the list . Hes a member and 
> moderator.
> 
> The difficulty with a dream universe is that its not easy to know about this 
> one while in it but we can know about it while in this one . That makes this 
> universe senior to that one. We dont truly realize how easy it is to change 
> this universe with a snap of a finger until we are out of it and into the 
> senior universe this universe is within .
> 
> The same rules apply to this universe.  But not necessarily true. I think 
> weve all had experiences here in this universe that are considered impossible 
> to accomplish by the physical laws of this universe is bound by. We at times 
> operate outside the laws briefly until a moderator steps in. 
> 
> Its possible we have past lives or that some of us do and some of us do not. 
> Its possible that we physically never leave this universe even though we see 
> others dying around us every day . When I say never leave, I mean when we get 
> sick or die in an auto accident or some other way that we wake up in pain and 
> broken up but we heal and continue as if we never died like in the movie 6 
> sence.
> 
> Then when we age and are about to die from old age , a medical discovery is 
> dicovered and restores our body back to how it was when we were 5 years old 
> and we simply continue on with a younger body , but with the same name and 
> identity.
> 
> Ive read about stem cell tech that claims when an old dying cell is put into 
> a colony or dish of young new cells , millions of new healthy cells , the old 
> dying cell is restored to the same condition as the younger healthy cells. 
> Contagion of non aberation.
> 
> In this universe , not knowing is just as valid as knowing . So we know what 
> we truly want to know and not know what we truly do not want to know. 
> 
> If we choose to know a beat up car with a scruffy woman at the wheel smoking 
> a stink stick and a licence plate with the name dimdgrl on it , it appears . 
> Or if we choose to create a guy name David who sees the same thing and then 
> tells us about it on the trom list , it happens. The possibilities are 
> endless. None of which violate the laws of this universe.
> 
> How challenging would that be to know everything there is to know or at least 
> have that ability.  Like playing a game of checkers by ones self as the 
> opponent over and over and over again. Pretty dull. 
> 
> Its possible that its just you in this universe and everyone else and 
> everything else is of your own creation and you ( or me ) have created you ( 
> or me )
> 
> If anything is possible ( and anything is ) then this too is a possibility.
> 
> But if this is true then once its known , then what .? Its back to being 
> alone again . The games become dull because you know its only you playing 
> against you and only you who is opposing you. Like the game of chess with you 
> spinning the board around and playing both sides.
> 
> Anyway, im my oppinion the purpose of using TROM is for one thing. To restore 
> ability . Period.
> 
> Having oobe is benificial to the whole scheme of things but not very 
> beinficial in restoreing ability or eliminating the hard core of the mind. 
> AKA our own past posulates.
> 
> Ive come across a trick so to speak that can be used to get an answer but it 
> only applies to this universe and the duality its constructed with. Its a 
> system of knowing,  not direct knowing. It relates to what ive mentioned in 
> past posts, life and non life goals, opposites and opposition. As soon as I 
> have it finished ill share it with everyone else. If it makes sence that is 
> and I can present it in a way that is easily understood.
> 
> ive also noticed , and so have others using level 5 that while on level 5,  
> when you put the specified postulates up on one of the 16 levels , they seem 
> to manifest in the present time universe as well.
> 
> Where ever you stop on a level, you have that level and are stuck with that 
> level until you are finished with it and move onto the next level. This is 
> what Dennis referrs to when he states , theres no going back you know. Be 
> sure you want to go .
> 
> I took a break from level 5 to see what woukd happen , what he meant by that 
> . Now I know.
> 
> Example:
> 
> you put up postulates on level 5 of prevented from being known for example 
> and thats as far as you go for a while after going around the chart. 
> 
> Then in the present time universe, you find youself prevented from knowing 
> allot . Like you need to use the toilet and walk into a public bathroom with 
> 10 stalls and all of them are being used by others.
> 
> If youre gonna take a break or intermission from level 5 , be sure to end off 
> at a level that will be of benifit to you in present time. Not sure where 
> that might be for you or me.
> 
> I do know this.  As you continue round the chart , the power or ability to 
> postulate increases. Earlier postulates are more solid and powerful than 
> latter . Im refering to sequence not time when I say ealier.
> 
> Keep in mind that , there is actually no such thing as present time in this 
> universe.  There is the past and the future and the so called present time 
> universe is actually razor thin between the two. Remember its a universe of 
> duality after all.
> 
> The present time universe is the challenge between the two universes. The 
> challenge is Aka the spark between the two universes. The past is in 
> opposition to the future and we are experiencing the spark between them. This 
> is what we become addicted too not the complementary postulates.
> 
> Example:
> 
> If I say me all your money and you say no, imagine the feeling between us . 
> Feels like crap. The feeling between us is the challenge , the spark.
> 
> Now imagine you are passing out flyers as I walk by you on the sidewalk and 
> you hand one to me  as I walk by and I take it from you and continue to walk.
> 
> Theres no challenge , no spark, our postulates are complmenting each others.
> 
> Imagine a guy like bill gates or who ever has a few billion bucks in the bank 
> playing a $500 limit craps games in a casino.  He has no challenge there. If 
> he loses , it makes no difference. If he wins, it makes no difference.
> 
> But if you only have $500 in the bank and you stand to win another 500 or 
> lose it all. And if you lose it all , youll not have any money to get back 
> home and youll need to hold a cardboard sign up that says "god bless you , 
> anything helps" afterwards, thats a challenge.  That creates a spark between 
> oppositions.
> 
> When one has a few billion bucks almost everything on the planet is virtually 
> free. Women ( or men if you lean that way )  food, shelter, cars boats 
> employees. All virtually free to you .
> 
> Gambling a few hundred thousand at a casino when one has a few billion is 
> like you and me playing a video black jack game on the internet for free with 
> points. Pretty boring very soon after we play for a short while. Ya know what 
> I mean ?
> 
> I think b gates has 1200 employees whos job is to give his money away every 
> day . Lol crazy .
> 
> I saw some asian guy on the internet having sex with about 50 naked asian 
> girls on the all in the same room. 
> Ill bet it smelled a little fishy in that room too ( lmao)
> 
> I suppose the trick is to not be too broke and not have too much money 
> either. 
> 
> Ultimatly,  the universe is yours and yours alone. Always has been always 
> will be. Everything and everyone in it is your creation, your doing. You put 
> everything in it and only you can take part or everything out of it . You 
> decide who joins it and what creations are allowed in it . Others must have 
> your permission while in it. Others may create without permission while 
> others must have it first . Youtube, google, facebook , twitter are all 
> internet univereses with rule and laws and owners.
> 
> This post is a good basis for producing a hit movje like the matrix if you 
> choose. Then youll make a hundred million dollars,  then you can pay to have 
> sex with 50 naked ( evil as Jurgen likes to see it ) women all at the same 
> time , hopefully without the seabass effect . Lol ah hahahaha.
> 
> The end , from early this AM
> 
> Ok I feel strange now writing the above after reading the others post and the 
> importance im feeling from the posts about sourse . Its not a big deal 
> really. Things are how they are for now and im letting it happen to be that 
> way.
> 
> I dont want to destroy what I wrote this morning so hopfully youll go with 
> the humor ive included and the rest without a problem.
> 
>   its 530 pm now. Just read all the posts since my last post . I dont get 
> mail from the list . I read it when I feel like it and choose the ones I want 
> to comment on.
> 
> I would have had no good reality on the energy vampires if I hadnt 
> experienced one myself in 2000 or 2002 . When I heard what DHS had to say 
> about them , I knew that was the same kind of sap sucker DHS and LRH were 
> referring to.
> 
> Ive only met one guy like this and I hope I never met another. If I had to 
> choose between smelling someones discusting fart in an elevator and 15 
> seconds of this sap sucker , id have to choose the elevator. And I've always 
> considered myself having excelent confrontation ability.  
> 
> I was installing a camera over looking the front door of a condominimum  
> complex and this guy walked up . I dont recall what he said but after he 
> interupted me and did his thing , I felt like tearing his head off and 
> handing it to him .
> 
> It was the most horrible thing id ever felt from another person and still is 
> to this day .
> 
> In regard to the one. Not the 1, when I was using trom in 2010 I was 
> discharging charge as a rate that was until then far too imaginable .  I was 
> sessioning myself every day for months non stop . Jurgen and I were sending 
> tons of emails back and forth for a while and Id tell him how it was going as 
> I went from level 2 to level 5 .
> 
> Before I got to level five I was completely at a level that some have refered 
> to as a clear theta clear . I was comunicating with others by thought alone 
> and much more that I wont bore you with if I havnt already that is .
> 
> I recall being in comm with a being at the LA who informed me that they were 
> expecting me . I initiated the convlrsation from a distance while driving 
> that I was Slim.  The other being replied,  " we were expecting you " it was 
> right then and there that I realized who I was ( OR AM ) and where I was from 
> and what my purpose was for being here. This is how " I am slim and I am the 
> 1 " was realized.
> 
> This is when I created the YT video , I am slim and I am the 1.
> 
> There was no mistaking, no doubts. I knew then who I was as a being,  what I 
> came here to do , what my name was spiritually and way way more. I was 
> laughing as hard as I could and crying as hard as I could uncontrollably for 
> about 5 minutes. Haven't done that since and never knew it was possible prior 
> to that.  Do you know your human identity ? Youre sure who you are ? Most do. 
> It was then I knew just as well as humans know who they are that I know who I 
> am . Theres no doubt.  You know it and if anyone says you are not who you are 
> you look at them like What? Get outa here and stop bugging me . Of course you 
> know who you are.
> 
> I didnt get in communication with the one. Ive never met any ones and still 
> do not know any ones or a one or a supreme being known as a one.  The native 
> state beings i know of do not have names, they dont need names to have an 
> identity and can change identity at will.
> 
> I dont know of the original one that we oringinated from BUT I sure know who 
> I am just like almost every human knows who they are. . Not saying it not 
> true. Just that I have no experience that I know of with this one being.
> 
> Ok,  Have a nice day everyone.
> 
> Slim :  )
> 
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