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Thanks for your reply. It is always good to have acknowledgement and reciprocation on good subjects for discussion. It helps to get different points of view and experience. I suppose there are about as many different types of EVs as there are people. Because besides the basic cause of EV (the original damage) there are all kinds of valences, mental constructs, and coping mechanisms on top of the EV. ************ > > David, > Thank you for sharing this and all other info and posts. > > BTW, I do read everyone's posts and appreciate them all! > > I've met some of those "Energy Vampires" of which you speak. > I have also known ones not so easily spotted. These, both men and women, > are highly successful. Now, I am NOT implying or saying all highly > successful individuals are EV. > D> I heard one highly successful business woman say on TV, that because she could not handle "relationships" ( meaning being a woman in a marriage and handling a man, as well as a family) she found that it was easier to handle business and people in business, so pursued that goal in life, as an alternative. > But, a few are. And these type individuals were fun and exciting to be > around. > > Most cases I observed were sucking life energy from their spouses - a > couple of individuals, spouses and affair person. > The EV looks bright, knowledgeable, and energetic - usually a charmer and > a "real go getter." (earnings often in 6 figures) The spouse usually is > dull and non-engaging; can't make decisions or solve problems and are > often (not always) substance addicted. > > I haven't listened to Dennis' lectures, so don't know if he mentions any > of this. Haven't read LRH since the 70's but think he might have mentioned > something about this. Off the top of my head I would say look into > "Science of Survival." > D> The books Dianetics and the SOS are a couple of my other "bibles", "my main operating datums" besides the regular bible. I have several "bibles" - that is; books of stable data. Although, I have not read the SOS from cover to cover, since 97 and 98, my thinking operates on what I do remember. I am focusing now on completing TROM and hoping that my mind will work better and process data faster, ideally even learn to speed read, or even better; photo read. I am hoping to develop a photographic memory. Then reread a number of books that I really want to reread. People indeed do fail in any endeavor for only one reason and that is for the lack of the right knowledge to solve the problem at hand. If you had the right knowledge, you can solve any problem perfectly. So the key is to gain knowledge, wisdom and understanding. And that pretty much sums up what scn is all about. Blessings, David > Blessings, > Teresa > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:22 AM, David Pelly <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> >> >> >> >> >> The more I focus and write on this subject, the more understanding comes >> to light for me on the subject. >> >> >> Such extreme "must not know" s and "must not be known"s are often >> described as "jinxes" and "trouble looking for a place to happen". >> >> They usually wander through life lonely and aimlessly. They cannot hold >> jobs. >> >> They cannot form relationships. >> >> They are not able to bond with others due to lack of "know how" and the >> buried, suppressed pain, that is there in place of the lack of "know how" >> .(That is the know how that would otherwise be there in the case of a >> proper, sane, loving upbringing. ) >> >> >> The concepts and "know hows" of "love" and "emotional bonding" and of >> "forming meaningful relationships" and the abilities to do so , are all >> learned functions and abilities. They are forms of postulates. They are >> learned behaviors. They are conditionings. They are implants. They are >> imprints. >> >> If there is true, intelligent, sane and higher evolved love between a >> couple, and then the mother properly "mothers" the baby, giving it >> emotional nourishment on an as required basis, and the father properly >> "fathers" the baby, and the parents are naturally continuously bonding >> between themselves then the child will be well adjusted and have his head >> screwed on right and be able to duplicate that in his life. >> >> >> If he is just an empty shell, (with none of the above) then that is all >> he has to offer when he enters the stage of life of marital relationships. >> >> >> >> Also, based on my research, it is my hypothesis, at minimum, that the >> emotional, mental and spiritual condition (or state) of the man and woman, >> as well as the quality of and condition of their relationship ) while >> having sex to conceive a baby has a fundamental effect (or cause) on the >> basic nature of the zygote- then embryo, fetus, baby and onto adulthood. >> >> There is rape, hedonism, fucking, perversion, getting your rocks off, >> satisfying your carnal desires, sex and actual conscious making love. And >> any and all combinations and extremes of the conditions I mentioned. The >> variations are infinite. >> >> It is my hypothesis that the type of sex occurring where a baby is >> made, will create the emotional, attitude, and disposition template for >> the being that is created. >> >> If a man and a woman are in a relationship just for existence convenience >> and there is no love or true emotional bonding and have sex where a baby is >> conceived, then, it is my hypothesis that the baby will grow into an adult >> that is an energy vampire. >> >> It is a matter of degree. If the couple are both energy thieves, are >> both empty shells, are both black holes, then the product will be >> likewise, actually even worse. >> >> >> >> This explanation is extremely brief. A book can be written on it. >> >> Various or certain types of perverted lifestyles and perverted sex make >> homosexuals. Nothing happens by chance in this universe. There is only >> cause and effect. >> >> >> My sources for that viewpoint come from the Oahspe bible, the Anastasia >> books by Vladimir Megre, and some on line research on "how to make babies", >> based on some Indian spirituality. And the evaluation of myself and my >> parents. And in discussion with others on the subject. >> >> Anastasia series of books available here: http://ringingcedars.com/ >> >> Oahspe is here: http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/odownload.html >> >> Sex is quantum physics. >> >> All factors present or not present at the time of leading up to and at >> the time of conception are the raw material for the product called a baby. >> >> We are all products of genetics, a conception and an upbringing. >> >> If you have a problem with the product, you have to check the factory >> for the cause. >> >> >> All available evidence points to the idea that it is very true that there >> is only life and postulates ( and cause and effect) in this universe. >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> > > > -- > *¨) ¤ > .•´ .•*¨) .•*•. * > (¸.•´¸ Teresa .•*¸ ¤ > .•´ .•´¤ ¸•* > (¸.•* (¸.•*´¨`•. > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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