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Thanks for your helpful reply,   Slim,


Your posts are starting to come up the theta scale.

That is good.


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> The hornets buzzing around you're describing on level 5 ARE what you want
> to timebreak out. Postulates up, timebreak out what ever shows up. You only
> put the postulates up, not the effects of the postulates. Not the SPs, your
> dad or any of that . Just the postulates.
>
> I wish I had as many as you .....lol but then I guess im better off
> without them too. It was a blast , literally a blast, time breaking them
> all away .
>
> I got rid of the ones I had on level 3 .
>

D> I have been working on these undesirable postulates for many, many yrs,
in different ways with different techs.

Some were more helpful than others. But it all amounts to know how, that is
also called experience.

I did some L2 and L3 between 08 and  011.  All I remember is that it would
all but totally knock me out.

Then after several attempts over 3 yrs, and NDEs,  I dropped TROM and went
back to various other methods to deal with my case.

I was successful in removing all easily found charge. Even more than
"easily found" charge.


Slim, In my opinion it is extremely misleading to expect anyone or tell
anyone ( also parroting what  Dennis says  in the manual) that "anyone can
do"  "TROM".  That means do TROM on it's own.

That is not possible  in its present form.

(With the exception of a very rare person,  it is an out right lie.

There are even many experienced  scngts  who have tried TROM and could not
do it.)

Doing TROM, for a person who does not have a scn or some related tech
background, is like a kid entering school at the grade  junior high level
and then doing a couple of grades per  yr after that.

My point is that, TROM is way to steep a gradient, for an inexperienced
person to do, as per the TROM manual.

It needs to be rewritten in simple clear plain English on a practical
gradient. It has to be done in a mainstream writing style like someone with
a good education and also  being a good communicator, would have.

Someone that understands what "proper gradient"  and  "duplicating
understanding in the intended terminal"  means.

(Leo Faulhaber says that someone has done it in German on DVD.)


Anyways, back to TROM and me in present time, ....one way or another, other
than TROM,  I got to where I am on L5.

(I did not even look at L2 and L3 on this attempt.

I went straight to L4.)



And now back to these menacing postulates.

I woke up very  early this morning  with this problem on my mind and
decided to work on them.

It is easiest for me to  find them,  and deal with them, if or when  I am
in a deep meditative state.

I mentally took each one, and  via  intention,  canceled it, deleted it,
and cleared it, to take it out of existence.

Then I put up its counter postulate (opposite polarity), in it's place.

Example:

Undesirable postulate: He is stupid. (postulated it cancelled, deleted and
cleared)

  then put up the counter  postulate: I am very intelligent.

(I suppose that could be called  a form of "repair of importance".)


Will see how that works in a few days.




In referenece to your post about pts-ness abuse. Forcing and preventing etc.

Its called games play ..... lol



D> It is even a steep gradient for someone to accept that definition of
games play.



This why I always tell every one to let the other tech go and not add it
into TROM. I use many of the COS terms as an easier means to describe a
concept . Even then I avoid that as much as possible. As if the COS never
exsisted. But the terms they have come in handy dandy at times since almost
everyone on tjis lkst is familiar with them.


D> Slim,   you are totally oblivious to the value of your scn back ground.
It is stupidity. (Not being able to evaluate data.)

I doubt very much,  if you would be able to do TROM if you did not have
your scn back ground, then listened to TROM on tape some 40 times in your
car, over 10 or what ever number of yrs, before doing TROM in 2010.

(I was the one on line, who answered you, ..... when you inquired if anyone
was here on this list?)


That is a very long runway before getting to where you are now with TROM.



Re: the Diamond girl license plate ? This is just the start of whats to
> come for you . Manifestation or coincidence? Good luck . It will derail the
> best of the best . You think you know insanity? Spiritual life and reality
> in the physical bio universe will take some getting use to in ways that are
> not mentioned in the games manual.
>

D> I think I know what you mean.  I have been having various similar
experiences for quite some time now.




> When you can speak to a group of 5 people five feet in front of you and
> then have them respond back to you one at a time about things there is no
> way they could have possibly known that you have known for some time will
> have you pondering things about WTF is going on? Was it me who controlled
> their comments ? Are they really me but ive been pretending my whole life
> that they are them and I am me ? Am I everyone else and me too?
>
> When the songs on the tv and radio begin to have converstaions with you
> about topics you have recently become interested in .
>

D> I am not into songs on the radio, but I have moments of similar things
happen in other ways. Not that often, but they are not uncommon and I
suspect they  will become more frequent, as I do more TROM.



I mean come on here, what the heck is going on . ? Lol life will become
> very very different in this universe as you come up the line. Fun but
> unless you have friends who have similar experiences, youll find yourself
> on an island alone in many ways.
>


D> I do have that problem now.

:)

Like Zig Ziglar  said "It is lonely at the top."

About the only way to keep sane, the only way to outflow in a meaningful
manner, and keep interested in life, and not get bored,  or  now go stare
crazy insane or stupid,  is to teach and help others.





David

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