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Hi David
I have two dogs and have trained them to stop some behavior and come when 
called.

They in turn insist that I throw things so they can fetch them.

So sometimes the dogs train me.

I think this is evidence that animals postulate as ably as people do.

Sincerely
Pete

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> On Jan 25, 2014, at 12:59 PM, David Pelly <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Quote from TROM book:
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> The PD postulates.
> These are the hidden postulates in life; not because any attempt is being 
> made to hide them, but merely because man the materialist cannot fit them 
> into his theories about life, and so tends to discount their existence. 
> Everyone knows about SD postulates, but few suspect the existence of their PD 
> twins at the other end of the comm line. Thus, being unknown or generally 
> ignored, they tend to be highly effective.
> 
> For example, how many people can resist a stray cat who wanders in and looks 
> at you with his big, pleading eyes? You don’t know it but that sudden urge to 
> get him a saucer of milk and a nice warm home is more his PD postulate than 
> your SD one! Animals, being entirely natural, and not being educated to the 
> contrary, use their PD postulates to the full, thus making willing slaves out 
> of us "Oh so much more intelligent and rational" humans. 
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> 
> Here Dennis is wrong re: the cat's PDP.
> 
> The domesticated cat is not operating on his postulate.  The domesticated cat 
> is operating on the postulates of his domesticator.  The domesticated cat is 
> trained to want and depend on how his trainer trained him. Training and 
> domestication are implanted postulates. 
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> 
> If you disagree with my statement, answer this question:  
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> Ever see a wild cat come up to you and beg for a saucer of milk?
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> Babies too are masters of the PD postulate; they have yet to be educated out 
> of their belief in the efficacy of such things.
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> This one too: Dennis' viewpoint is very warped or aberrated. Babies don't 
> believe.  The parents made the baby and are therefore responsible for the 
> babies needs to survive.
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