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Brian,


1. I mentioned a week or two ago that it was my intention to stir up some
intelligent and meaningful exchange of comm and ideas on TROM, and how best
to do it,  on this list.

So far I have achieved my objective.

I am more than satisfied with  what has transpired on this list.

I hope it continues.


2. You are speaking from a relatively high altitude,  and position of
training and experience in scn in the cos,

 (that is speaking down, and with a hint of arrogance, contempt, aloof
authority,  aloof superiority, conceit,  scorn and beratement).



By comparison my scn education and training has been by the seat of my
pants in the fz.

I have not done any official bridge.

Other than a course in TIR (Dianetics),   I learned to audit, mostly by
being audited  and mostly over the phone, and reading fz material.

I have been told I am a better auditor than three scn old timer cl 8s, that
a couple of my pcs who had me and them for auditors.

I did not charge,  and the cl 8s charge $80 per hour.

And yet (even though the pc said I did a better job than the cl 8s)  I felt
so inadequate, as I knew that I needed to be so much better to achieve the
goals of auditing, that I knew had to be achieved.



Therefore based on the comments I got from the pcs I audited,  and what
they said about the quality of auditing they got from the cl 8s, it does
not say much for the competence of the so called highly trained cl 8s.

They call themselves as the best in the world. They were trained by LRH
himself.



I did not use conventional scn processes either, which a "scntlgist"  would
declare as squirrel, SP or heresy, or even  deserving  of being lashed
naked in the public square or even capital punishment by guillotine. I have
been threatened.




The gradient or perspective you are working from is of no comparison to the
one I am working from.

I look forward to your rewrite of TROM.

We need as many such efforts as possible.

The biggest room in the world is room for improvement.

Nothing in the realm of knowledge, stays the same.

What was true yesterday, may or may not be true today.


Thank you,

Yours truly,

David Pelly




On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:15 PM, TROM <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Hello TROMers,
>
> My name's Brian and I have been doing TROM on and off now for a few years
> (more off than on unfortunately.)
>
> I was a Scientologist for 30+ years until 2007 when I announced my
> departure
> from the Co$. I am trained to class V as an auditor, done a couple L's
> (best
> auditing I ever had.)
>
> I've gotten a start on a book on TROM that I hope will present the subject
> in a simple and straightforward manner with no Scn lingo and examples that
> cover many questions asked here by new-comers.
>
> I must say that reading the TROM manual now over 10 times through has been
> quite useful (and listening/reading all of Dennis' talks.) If any of you
> have questions or disagreements (that'd be you Dave P.) you should just
> take
> another pass or 5 through the materials until you do get it. I have not
> found any mistakes in this tech as presented by Dennis. It lines up with
> perfect logical consistency.
>
> It's good to see the list come alive like it has in the last weeks. It's
> gotten me more motivated to get cranking on level 3.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Brian
>
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