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Very well put. Maybe your sentence directed at David "Obviously you're going to get some reactions" sums up his motivation. We should all begin criticizing TROM then Pelly rushes in in defense of it. Best Roberto Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Februar 2014 19:52 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [TROM1] David and TROM but he's not the only one. "Such thinking is very, very low on the Hubbard chart of human evaluation." David, Are you deifying Hubbard and his chart- rather than Dennis's? You seem to be using it to evaluate with. If something, (TROM) is not working for you, well, move on. If $cn. works for you maybe go to your local org. That simple, no? If you're standing in K Mart and telling all the shoppers why K Mart sux and t's no good for you and you're trying to convince them it's no good for them and that Wal Mart is better. Obviously you're going to get some reactions. You're not endearing yourself to K Mart shoppers. Shoppers who probably like K mart. :-) Maybe you should go to Wal Mart? One advantage that I realized I have is that I've actually met LaFatty a few times pre his, "shuffle off this mortal coil". So when $cilons come at me with that worshipful attitude and take his every utterance literally as gospel I just have to laugh. This statement is not directed at you. My point is that these "Guru's" wrere/are human beings. And had/have faults. Some of them MASSIVE. Use what works for you. Come back to the part that don't later. Seif it does work now. if it don't, move on. That simple. The chart is not the territory. cheers, Chas. Did you like my typo's? ;-> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014, at 08:15 AM, David Pelly wrote: ************* The following message is relayed to you by <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] ************ Slim, I appreciate your acceptance and encouragement. Thank you. But you are not being honest and objective about TROM. You are not being honest about your experience with TROM. I said it many times before, so will not repeat it now. You and my other critics and condemmers think that the truth of a matter is determined by beliefs, opinions, and by who wins an argument, rather than by critical thinking and provable facts. Here is what Greg reported: "quote from TROM help home page": Unfortunately once the work was distributed I started hearing criticism that the book didn't have an index; that there were spelling errors; that it wasn't easy to understand; Two points: 1. That is putting it mildly. After spending three yrs trying to read it, and figure it out, I gave up and threw my copy of the book in the dumpster . 2. The understandability and workability of TROM have not changed since. The idea that TROM should not be rewritten in plain and clear language and put on a practical and workable gradient, is plain aberrated thinking, limited thinking, short sighted thinking, and small minded thinking. low toned thinking and low theta thinking. It is also deifying Dennis and making his words gospel, holy , immutable or absolute. Which is more aberrated, low toned, low theta thinking. Sane, honest, and intellectually competent, high toned, high theta, people do not think that way. Such thinking is very, very low on the Hubbard chart of human evaluation. Such viewpoint and such false and limiting thinking will only prevent any potential benefit TROM may have , from getting done. TROM, at best, will stay in the extreme fringes of self help tech for eternity. It will never come anywhere near main stream self help tech. Since you declined my invitation to come and buy me coffee here, even though you said you have a mountain of money, the next time I am in Vegas, I will buy you one. Best regards, David For every one who comes along with a better idea, to improve the future, there are a thousand to guard the past, to protect the status quo, to argue to defend their insanity, their incompetence, their stupidity and their right to be that way and remain that way. There are two ways to establish a reputation, one is to be honored and respected by honest and noble men, and the other is to be condemned by aberrees, rogues and scoundrels, It is however best to secure the first, because it is always accompanied by the latter. And the big problem here on earth is that there are a heck of a lot more aberrees, rogues and scoundrels than honest and noble men. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:13 PM, < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: ************* The following message is relayed to you by <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] ************ Ya it's kind of irritating to read negative comments about TROM . TROM is a positive and will always without exception attract negatives until the negative charge is burned out . But if this were my list under my control . He'd be just as welcome here as anyone else. I also hate so see TROM squirreled and altered but I noticed Pete put back the original and put his altered so called easier ( for him ) version as a side link. Hopefully that too will be gone some day when he " gets it " lol It's funny though to see the COS squirrel busters become squirrels them selves as identities. You see if being a squirrel is made important , then not being a squirrel must also be just as important. If the absence of squirrels is important , then so are the squirrels to the same degree. That's which one fights, one becomes trapped in or stuck with in other words. It's called entrapment in a goals package. If the the subject of understanding becomes important then the misunderstanding or absence of understanding of that subject becomes just as solid and important. Once you fully understand this logic, you can use it to be spring the trap the subject has become and simply and effortlessly walk away from it and understand it also known as know it . This explains why so many others want to change TROM in hopes that it will be made easier to understand. What they don't understand is that it's as simple as simple gets in this universe. ahahahahaha. I shit thee not . You can use this logic to walk out of any trap this universe contains but you'll be hard pressed to convince others of it . When one makes or assigns importance to the basic law of this universe, one also by the nature of this universe assigns importance to the negative leg of the goals package and becomes trapped in the universe. Or more basically , assigning importance to be free while ignorant of the negative leg of the goals package , one becomes trapped in that goals package. In the final instance knowing , not the goal to know but direct knowing can resolve any goals package. It's the basic of all basics and the top of the hill in ability . I used it to trap myself in it intentionally long ago. Many times this life time too. I'm trapped in it now for a purpose but that's a different story . If you are trapped here like I am at the moment, you too have at some point considered it important. Know it or not. It's true and as long as you do , you'll continue to be trapped here . The importance is so solid that considering the mass unimportant is a game you are sure to lose until your ability to resolve the mass has returned. Considering any mass, any subject as an importance while assigning it as unimportant is a game you'll lose until it's time broken . That ability has been lost for many but not everyone. Some beings come and go all the time and you can too. It's only when you lose sight of the true nature of this universe that it becomes a trap . Any universe in this universe too. The laws apply to all jr universes. Also known as jr goals packages, TROM is perfectly good logical tech but for the super negative folks it tends to make them a little crazy. Crossed up goals packages. I started blowing charge the instant I read the games manual. Still do to a lesser degree some times but at first it was just amazing how simply reading it could resolve charge. This is why it's better for these guys to just use the practical section. Beating on the theory with an imagined hammer will just make it more solid and less understandable. I think I've mentioned this on the list before. If so, please pardon the duplicate. I send some long winded private emails to list members too so I'm not sure . Anyways I've gotten more charge off of levels 2-4 than level five so far so I'm actually looking forward to some extreme resolution as I restart level five. If the lowers levels are just a small example of what's to come then holy crap batman. It's hard to imagine but not impossible ( because I have ) the results that are soon to be for me . This is why the COS takes so much heat . Even from me at times but not for the same reason. They take heat from the negative charged guys who just won't have it . If you take a negative pole of a battery and touch it with a positive pole , it generates a spark. The legs of a goals package are no different. The are positive legs and negative and the charge is what's generated between the two. Sensation is what we feel from it . It's basic electricity 101 A 1 has no charge . When 1 opposes another 1 it generates charge. No exception. The more important the 1s are the more charge gets generated. The higher the voltage , the more important it is . When you remove the importance from any thing, you remove the voltage to the same degree. Likewise the more sensation. The more importance between the 1s, the more spark and sensation. This is the simplest form of logic it he universe. Yet others will spend a life time making it as complicated as possible. Why? To make it not knowable . That's all. There are an infinite number of ways to make a thing not knowable. But only one way to make it knowable . By simply knowing . It's the top of the virtual food chain in the universe. To know. You'll get there . You can simply know what ever you choose and know you know it's correct. You can use both systems of knowing in combination with direct knowing. I'm not there yet total knowing but I'm not far either. I've been there yes but now I'm here again. How ? From time breaking and using TROM. I watched the Jesses Ventura conspiracy theory show on YouTube the other day . It was about the reptilians and if they actually existed . He came to the conclusion that they do not . Here's the link <http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZPy_hN8_sU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUZPy_hN 8_sU> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZPy_hN8_sU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUZPy_hN8 _sU As it ended and he summarized the show , I just looked and could see them. Yes they do exist but an unaware person is not able to know it. Jesses uses systems of knowing and that's exactly how the reps like it . Just because he can't see them does not mean they don't exists but you already know that . The reps choose to be not known but their not know postulates and effects are pathetically weak . They also took control of the COS long ago . Don't believe me ? Your choice. They also have control of every government on this planet . Humans are their employees. WAAAAAA ! We just don't know it . : ) they want us to believe we are the top of the food chain. We are their niggers..lol don't get me wrong black people are people too. Some good some not just like any other race. I use the term as in slaves. I have a good ability to know things directly and the ability is returning in an accelerating manner as I timebreak mental mass with time breaking. So I'll say it again . If you have trouble understanding the theory , just use the practical section alone and browse the theory sections from time to time as you resolve charge along the way and run the heck outa RI brah !!!! Ma home cheesezillas. If anyone is ever in las vegas , look me up. I go to the 1 street stage every Thursday. I go exterior to my body and sweep around the crowd . The sensations of the band that plays there along with the others sensations are very pleasurable . All I do is not know the negativity of others who are in the crowd and know the positives. Close my eyes and off I go out into the crowd and band members. Not for all the songs but for the ones I like most. They perform some nice classic rock music every Thursday night from 7 to 10. My favorite era . Van Halen, led zep Beatles the who, pink Floyd. The stage is at the intersection of 1 st and Fremont streets Las Vegas, every Thursday night from 7 - 10 . And nope the name of the stage is no coincidence. It's called 1st for a purpose. Me David , never give up and never give in, you're so close and yet it seems impossible . You can do this I know you can . <http://www.theresolutionofmind.org/1st.st.stage.png> http://www.theresolutionofmind.org/1st.st.stage.png <http://Www.theresolutionofmind.org/theslimster.jpg> Www.theresolutionofmind.org/theslimster.jpg Saaaaaaa........lim baby !!!!!!! 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