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Hi Colleen and everyone,

First of all, there's a lot of TA in scn terms lately on the Trom list. That's 
a good thing no doubt. I think unconditional love would be God's attitude to 
all of it. Trom cannot be threatened. It's a jewel of logic and simplicity. 
Some people just need more complexities is my experience and that's fine.

About your post re the self to self flow Colleen, I think that's a very good 
observation. After all, everything we observe is happening in our own mind and 
nowhere else, isn't it? Dennis talks about one of the earliest games somewhere, 
the playmate, where you invent a character and pretend it's not you. I think 
that has a lot to do with it, hasn't it?

Love, Ludo.

Op 1-feb.-2014, om 04:25 heeft Colleen K. Peltomaa het volgende geschreven:

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> In Scientology I learned of the "4 Flows".  After years of R3X auditing it is 
> real to me that the only flow is Flow 0 -- self-to-self, and all other flows 
> are apparencies.   The "not-selfs".  But the apparent flows require 
> timebreaking before I get to see the truth that I did it to myself or for 
> myself, and the not-selfs are my creation for me to experience as I will.
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> I daresay that even this very manifest cobbled together identity is a 
> not-self. 
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> What is so important for me to experience?
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> Here is what Dennis says (03 Sensation)::
> only when the postulates are complementary is no sensation generated at the 
> boundary between them
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> sensation is that which is generated at the boundary between opposition 
> postulates in games play
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> Of course, question everything, take a look to see if that is true or not for 
> you.   
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> As I continue my clearing I become a lighter hearted compulsive games player 
> on the way to becoming a voluntary and complementary games player.  I'm 
> picking my fights more carefully, if at all.
> Foregoing the need to get motivated enough to justify getting pleasure from 
> pushing someone through an IP barrier.  Knocking their socks off, etc.  I'm 
> not saying it is wrong, just saying that I'm not interested in it so much as 
> I used to be.  I'm becoming more intrigued with the idea of complementary 
> postulates -- and I don't mean propitiation or apathetic agreement.   The 
> less invested I am in my own identity the more I can let others be. 
> The cleaner and more clear we are on our self-to-self flow the more 
> delightful everything is.
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> Study of TROM also makes me wise to being recruited into someone else's game 
> by pushing my self-importance buttons -- which is all happening in my 
> universe anyways.
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> If you can just keep it in your mind that everything you perceive is 
> happening in your own universe(s) then you only need to get straight with 
> yourself.   I know that's pushing the envelope .....   
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